Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rafat Abu Hilal


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Popular Resistance Committees. I find the rationale for redirecting more strong relative to our policies & guidelines than keep, and more numerous in support. Daniel (talk) 07:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Rafat Abu Hilal

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There is no WP:SIGCOV of him beyond the report of his death. I also tried searching for him on google before Oct 1, 2023, and found nothing on him. Given that sources only mention his death, I'd have proposed moving the page to Killing of Rafat Abu Hilal, but even that would not meet WP:GNG. VR talk 21:38, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Palestine-related deletion discussions. VR talk 21:38, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  00:33, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep I was supportive of a similar deletion last week, but this individual was a leader of the major attack that initiated the current conflict. Thief-River-Faller (talk) 14:54, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. The supposed criteria that only coverage before death qualifies does not exist. There's ample and diverse well-cited WP:SIGCOV of the article subject, the leader of the third largest Palestinian faction during the [[2023 Israel-Hamas war]. The individual's role was substantial, well-documented, widely-covered, and confirmed (including by his movement. [[User:Longhornsg|Longhornsg]] (talk) 00:45, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisted following a contested "keep" closure per Deletion review/Log/2023 December 22. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:17, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep He has a prominent role in the history of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.--— Osama Eid  ( talk ) 18:50, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Redirect to Popular Resistance Committees - Where he is already mentioned. The reports of his death are primary sources and do not demonstrate notability. Are there any secondary sources that discuss the signficance of this person? Longhornsg adds one source but this is just an obituary put out by the popular resistance movement. It lacks independence, and, in that form, is a primary source. It is also very brief and has nothing from which an encyclopaedic article could be written. Without some secondary surces describing why this person is significant, I would suggest an encyclopaedic treatment is not possible. All we have is that he was the head of PRC's armed wing and killed in an airstrike, and we have that on two pages. Unless significance beyond this can be shown, redirect is the appropriate WP:ATD. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:44, 30 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I found these:
 * https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/378775?ssr=1
 * https://jewishinsider.com/2023/10/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-gaza-hama Cray04 (talk) 11:33, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect per @Sirfurboy Redirect to Popular Resistance Committees - I agree with @SirfurboySirfurboy🏄's assessment.
 * The subject's mention in the context of the Popular Resistance Committees, where he is already noted, seems sufficient given the current sources. The primary sources reporting his death do not establish notability, and the lack of secondary sources discussing his significance suggests that an encyclopedic article is not warranted at this time. The obituary provided by the popular resistance movement is a primary source and does not offer the independent, in-depth coverage needed for a standalone article. As such, a redirect to the Popular Resistance Committees I think would be appropriate action per WP:ATD Cray04 (talk) 11:44, 30 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep - Plenty of reliable sources. Per WP:GNG. Had prominent role in the Israel-Palestine conflict.BabbaQ (talk) 13:05, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you actually provide reliable sources that give him SIGCOV? VR talk 18:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. gidonb (talk) 16:58, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Sirfurboy. Sources are not secondary and/or independent enough, and do not contain enough SUSTAINED SIGCOV, to meet notability.
 * JoelleJay (talk) 18:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect and selective merge to Popular Resistance Committees.   Falls slightly short of GNG and not enough sustained/lasting coverage to warrant a standalone article.  Frank   Anchor  19:11, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Sirfurboy. Assertions of WP:SIGCOV don't establish sigcov, and I don't see any actual links to sigcov here. Levivich (talk) 18:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


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