Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rahil abbas


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 01:53, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Rahil abbas

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Prod removed by page creator, who also seems to be the subject of the article. Article appears to be solely created to promote the subject. There is no coverage in reliable sources and the "References" given are Youtube videos, Facebook, google groups and the subject's own website all of which fail WP:RS. Overall the subject clearly fails WP:GNG. Valenciano (talk) 13:30, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
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DELETE- Fails WP:GNG and search engine test. No reliable references have been cited. Not a notable subject. -- Bharathiya (talk) 17:45, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Keep- provided references like Google group is acceptable because it is an active group with good amount of users, the link from google group is not new it was posted on 12/10/2010 and 2/3/2011 for public information and announcement not specifically for wikipedia references, secondly don't miss CrunchBase source, crunchbase reference is authentic and acceptable because they are moderating profiles like wikipedia. youtube links are evidence of his participation for noha, manqabat, naat, surood reciting from childhood to till date. and now he is public figure, when you search for "rahil abbas" on google, google will show you related search terms like "contact rahil abbas", "rahil abbas download" which is another evidence that people looking for information about him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravish.rizvi (talk • contribs) 05:31, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * As explained to you already, google groups is not a reliable source since anyone can post on there. Neither is crunchbase, which seems to be a site very much like linkedin where anyone can post a profile. That you have also posted videos about yourself to youtube is also very far from our notability requirements, which require reliable third party sources to have taken note of you. I suggest again that you have a read of WP:GNG and WP:RS. Valenciano (talk) 07:18, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Keep:Dear Valenciano i found one source of khadim e aza award, i found some stuff on google groups and other fb pages which is not acceptable by wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.247.222.8 (talk) 07:27, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * An IP whose only other contribution to Wikipedia has been this bit of vandalism suddenly pops up to defend this article. Please read WP:SOCK. Also, this is not a vote, in the end the decision whether to keep this article will depend on you producing third party reliable sources which prove that you are notable. Valenciano (talk) 07:33, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Dear Valenciano replace all unwanted youtube / facebook / google group links, also checked history of this IP vandalism, this ip used by more than 50 people and no idea about previous worst contribution, yesterday i was looking for this person and found wikipedia link with deleted nomination there for added stuff according to my knowledge and what ever information available about him on different different sites, not much friendly with wiki editing but tried my best to keep this article on wiki by providing resources, that will be helpful for other people looking for information about him as well as maybe in future more people will contribute if they will notice availability of this article on wikipedia. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.247.222.8 (talk) 07:57, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Keep:My suggestion is also same, if you keep this article sure lots of other people will contribute in future, now days people looking for him on web, so keeping this article is good for readers as well as other contributors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.4.209.5 (talk) 10:38, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Again, another account with absolutely no contributions outside this topic. The article currently has absolutely no reliable sources, it uses only 2 which are effectively a blog and a linkedin style profile. Thus notability is not established and you should also read WP:ITSUSEFUL for arguments to avoid. Valenciano (talk) 14:10, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * if people like me will find this article, sure they will contribute and try to add more information about him with sources available online, there is no connection with new or old user for updating this article, because our community people wants more information about him, and sure people like me will contribute more if will find this article on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.4.209.5 (talk) 16:55, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Not a notable subject; fails WP:RS. Delete.-Rayabhari (talk) 17:14, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Keep: I found these articles relevant & can be useful to other people in future.So continuing the articles will get people relevant information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakeshmehtaugc (talk • contribs) 09:10, 18 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The amount of sock (meat?) puppetry going on here is unreal. This is not a vote. Valenciano (talk) 17:11, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Dear Valenciano, and Rayabhari, i created this article for the people looking for more information about him, well Eulogy Recitation is not a profession (its religious act), not like someone singing a song and become singer and get more and more attention by acceptable sources, there are some other people profiles available on wikipedia, those reciting noha (eulogy), like Nadeem Sarwar, Syed Ali Muhammad Rizvi (Sachay Bhai), Ali Haider, if you will check these article, you will not get any acceptable resources but people want information about them, and they are updating articles as per available information on the net. reciting noha is not professional act therefore media attention is very less, and wiki accept related sources due to lack of media coverage, for more you can check see also list of Rahil abbas like Mourning of Muharram, Karbala Ta Karbala,, Soaz etc, requesting you to close this discussion and let this article ON for other people, once they will notice, sure they will contribute as per guideline provided by wikipedia.--Ravish.rizvi (talk) 09:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC)


 * See WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS, as pointed out to you before, if you want this article kept you need to find reliable sources about yourself. Simply arguing over and over that it's useful will not see this kept. Valenciano (talk) 17:11, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
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