Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raimo Kilpiö trophy


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 02:42, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Raimo Kilpiö trophy

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A google search for the title returns mostly mirrors or copies of Wikipedia TheChampionMan1234 05:38, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:56, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:56, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep A major award for one of the top leagues in the world. Being that it is a Finish league you aren't likely to find many English references to it. -DJSasso (talk) 13:01, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep: It's scarcely any surprise that a search term of "Raimo" + "Kilpio" + "trophy," run off of the Australian Google, wouldn't turn up much. Did the nom ever consider running the Finnish term, off of Google Advanced Search, for "Raimo Kilpiö -palkinto?" That turns up over 40,000 hits.    Ravenswing   13:37, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - Per Djsasso and Ravenswing. -- Hockeyben (talk - contribs) 14:33, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I've asked for additional input from User:JIP, a native Finnish speaker, to evaluate some of the sources Ravenswing found and say if they meet WP:RS. Nyttend (talk) 15:31, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The Google search that was linked returned quite few sources I'd consider reliable, but it did find some, most prominently MTV3, YLE, the official sites of Ilves and Tappara, and to a lesser extent, Liiga.fi, which seems to be some sort of prominent ice hockey site. It also found the Finnish Wikipedia, which is often reliable but can't be used as a source for Wikipedia itself, Jatkoaika.com, which is a sports discussion forum and can't be considered reliable, Suomi24, which is a general discussion forum and is among the least reliable and least respected sites in Finland (many Finns consider its discussions as utter trash), and Wikipedia mirror sites mindlessly copying anything that is written to Wikipedia. Those sources I don't consider reliable. J I P  &#124; Talk 16:50, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * liiga.fi is the official website of the Liiga, Finland's top hockey league - though I see the current design does look somewhat amateurish. Here is the page you are likely referring to, which notes the winners.  As such, my !vote is Keep. Resolute 20:29, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Since we need only two reliable sources to satisfy the GNG, that would do it.   Ravenswing   01:32, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per above.  Patken4 (talk) 14:00, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
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