Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raimo Olavi Toivonen


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 23:13, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Raimo Olavi Toivonen

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There seems to be a lack of significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Most of the sources in the article are from the subject of the article and the article was almost entirely written by Sockpuppet_investigations/R.o.t (note the initials).

Searching JSTOR for "Raimo Olavi Toivonen" yields 0 results, searching for "Raimo Toivonen" yields 1 result. The one main space article that links to this is Aatto Sonninen which was written by the same blocked sockpuppeting account. Searching Google Scholar does find some papers and references to their papers, but it doesn't seem significant compared to any random researcher. Also see User_talk:R.o.t/Archives/2020/November. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:23, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Computing and Software. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:23, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - subject seems to think that Wikipedia is a free webhosting service. Skyerise (talk) 10:49, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:16, 7 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete - seems to have abused self-published sources WP:BLPSPS Dotdashmeredith (talk) 06:47, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete - contains a link to an illegal Internet Archive copy of the Intelligent Speech Analyser site. (I am Raimo Olavi Toivonen copyrights owner of Intelligent Speech Analyser site) 2001:999:588:51DD:3534:D43E:2EFA:659B (talk) 05:55, 9 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Archiving is not illegal, because no one profits from it. In fact, it costs money to maintain. Archive.org also provides methods for removing pages and blocking crawlers, which you apparently have chosen not to use. This is not Wikipedia's problem and is not a valid deletion reason. Skyerise (talk) 10:52, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Skyerise, you obviously don't know copyright laws in different countries of the world. 2001:999:588:51DD:5970:C3EE:8554:2EA7 (talk) 12:21, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yawn. I do know that copyright complaints should be addressed to the violating party or to the courts. Not to Wikipedia. Skyerise (talk) 12:30, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * From 1996 to 2023, the ISA website has had all bot blocks, but despite that, a few days ago the entire ISA website was copied bit by bit to the Internet Archive. I am now in negotiations to remove all copies of the 1996-2023 ISA site from 1996-2023 and to ensure that the Internet Archive does not copy from my ISA site. The Internet Archive already has several gigabytes of material under my copyright from 1996-2023. If for some reason the removal and blocking is not successful, the Finnish government will block the aforementioned robots from accessing .fi addresses. 2001:999:588:51DD:5970:C3EE:8554:2EA7 (talk) 12:32, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * And that has to do with Wikipedia why? Skyerise (talk) 12:33, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * See, I don't believe you actually are Raimo Olavi Toivonen. I think you are someone who dislikes him and is trying to embarrass him by impersonating him and making him out to be a crotchety old troll. Anyone can claim to be anyone on the Internet. I could be the President of Finland, for all you know. Skyerise (talk) 12:41, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I am contacting the management of Wikipedia.org so that they can explain to you that I am Raimo Olavi Toivonen. 2001:999:48C:75AE:FDA3:804:B9E9:8DDE (talk) 17:35, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Go right ahead. Being only means you are violating the block on your account. You might get your IP or IP range blocked. It's called WP:BOOMARANG. Skyerise (talk) 17:37, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm Raimo Olavi Toivonen, I don't have any username on wikipedia. 2001:999:480:C6A5:9817:3CBC:3D54:52B5 (talk) 14:11, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, right. Skyerise (talk) 14:13, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The entire discussion of this page is now on my Raimo Olavi Toivonen's homepage "https://www.pitchsys.fi/copyright_protected_ISA_site/Works.html". 2001:999:480:C6A5:9817:3CBC:3D54:52B5 (talk) 14:30, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Wikipedians, follow what happens to illegal copies of the Internet Archive in Finland. 2001:999:480:C6A5:D508:B1AE:9155:3F41 (talk) 16:24, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * And you complain about an archive copying your website. Hypocrite. Skyerise (talk) 16:14, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * "23:28, 2 August 2023‎ Skyerise talk contribs‎ 15,985 bytes +25‎  →‎External links: guess grumpy doesn't know how to block web crawlers
 * 21:48, 2 August 2023‎ Skyerise talk contribs‎ 10,110 bytes −1,778‎  →‎External links: it is simply not appropriate to host these at Wikimedia commons; I'll see what's left after copyright discovery" 2001:999:480:C6A5:A8C2:4675:C7A0:3865 (talk) 19:57, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * You're such a troll! But you can't win the Internet! Skyerise (talk) 20:38, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Could you please elaborate on what you mean by your statement "But you can't win the Internet!" 2001:999:480:C6A5:E4D1:D402:70D4:35D9 (talk) 08:53, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure. It means the same thing as "tilting at windmills". See also WP:REICHSTAG. Skyerise (talk) 14:00, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Wikipedians, follow what happens to illegal copies of the Internet Archive in Finland. 2001:999:480:C6A5:D508:B1AE:9155:3F41 (talk) 16:24, 11 August 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.