Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rainbow Tribe


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Josephine Baker. While a close decision, I feel that the redirect argument is the consensus. (non-admin closure)  Onel 5969  TT me 22:18, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Rainbow Tribe

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An unneeded disambiguation page, from what I can see. The only thing on the page that actually matches the title 'Rainbow Tribe' is a non-notable nickname that Josephine Baker apparently gave her adopted kids. The rest are at best a few partial title matches. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:55, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:56, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm a veteran at Afd but I think this is the first disambiguation page I've ever nominated for deletion, so I'll keep a close watch on this one, to ensure that I've understood policy correctly. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:52, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Shawn, I originally created this page because in 2006 I had gone through WP in search of the "Rainbow Tribe," (a cultural phenomenon largely from the 60s and 70s), and instead only found an article titled Rainbow Family. Myself as a child of the 60s, I had often then heard the term "Rainbow Tribe," so I created a redirect for the term, then pointing to the Rainbow Family.  Now it appears that there are probably two major articles on essentially the same subject, one at Rainbow Family, and one at Rainbow Gathering, which at first glance, it appears that they might be better off merged.


 * This disambiguation page has since apparently changed significantly from my original redirect, and now appears to have been entirely created by others in a somewhat haphazard fashion, apparently attempting to clarify the relationship between the much larger Rainbow Gathering movement, and the many who came after it and apparently attempted to co-opt the name for less notable uses. Suggestion:  First, check to see the page traffic.  I would be willing to bet you that it is quite heavy, because there are lots of folks apparently in this still quite active movement.  In order to help the largest number of folks, don't delete this page, but improve it.  The relationship between the two major articles should be resolved, and this page should be preserved to resolve all of the obvious confusion that seems to still surround this group.  If you would like to work together with me on this "cleanup process," I would be happy to do so.  If instead, you might still prefer to do anything else with this page, I will say no further on it.  Thanks, Scott P. (talk) 19:12, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Shawn and Scott, I agree with Scott that, depending on the age or background of the person writing/searching, they may use "Rainbow Tribe" more than "Rainbow Family" when referring to the group described in the article by the latter name. I'm not particularly attached to working on the disambig, but I think a disambig is better-suited than just a simple redirect to the "Family" article. There are also some LGBT groups, and new age groups unrelated to the Rainbow Family group but inspired by the fakelore, who are, at least informally, using "Rainbow Tribe" in names or nicknames for their groups, so, there may be more entries to add here before too long.
 * I also concur that Rainbow Family and Rainbow Gathering are practically duplicates and may be best merged. When I saw the AfD notice, I actually assumed that's what this was going to be about. Best, - Co rb ie V    ☊ ☼ 20:01, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 10:33, 16 March 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:21, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep User:CorbieVreccan suggests that "Rainbow Tribe" is an alternative name for Rainbow Family, but that is not suggested in the disambiguation page currently and it is not stated in the article.  It would be better if someone would edit the article to say "also known as "Rainbow Tribe"" perhaps even with a source having that usage.  And the disambiguation page entry should be revised to show:
 * Rainbow Family, a group committed to principles of non-violence and non-hierarchical egalitarianism, also known as Rainbow Tribe
 * Then we'd all be happy, and future readers/editors would not wonder why the Family item is on the disambiguation page. I'll vote "Keep" because that's what I think is fair based on what was said here, although I am not myself familiar with these terms. -- do  ncr  am  03:57, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thinking this over again, and reading the discussion here, "Rainbow Tribe" as a term for hippie enviros (or psuedo-enviros, depending on who you talk to) who may or may not be connected to the hippie party group "The Rainbow Family of Living Light" and their "Rainbow Gatherings" may be a flash in the pan trend on social media and in certain circles. I'm not sure it can be adequately sourced. It's a social media and subculture usage. I'm not for rewriting the articles or trying to make it encyclopedic when it may be already falling out of fashion. - Co rb ie V    ☊ ☼ 18:03, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisted to evolve a clear consensus and attract more discussion.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades Godric 05:25, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment if this is deleted, it should redirect to Josephine Baker since that is what it is, her family. -- 70.51.200.162 (talk) 04:02, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Josephine Baker, as it is the only entry that can be known specifically as "Rainbow Tribe". -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:53, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect - the only common use of the term refers to the family of La Josephine. Bearian (talk) 18:09, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * As nominator, I'd certainly be happy with redirecting, too. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:33, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No objections to a redirect. She used it first. - Co rb ie V    ☊ ☼ 18:03, 4 April 2017 (UTC)


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