Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rainwater harvesting in the UK


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Roughly 50/50 between Keep and Merge, but discussion on that can continue elsewhere if desired. A couple of renames have been suggested, these can likewise be further discussed and I don't see a consensus to enact any of them as a part of this AFD. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:20, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Rainwater harvesting in the UK

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This article consists of unreferenced, original research/personal opinion. — Fly by Night  ( talk )  00:56, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I support deletion or else redirecting to Rainwater tanks. -- DanielKlotz (talk · contribs) 02:44, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * My opinion has changed I support 'merge per Colonel Warden's suggestion below. -- DanielKlotz (talk · contribs) 11:19, 29 July 2012 (UTC)


 * It's a legitimate topic, but the article does need to be cleaned up. I'd support a redirect to Rainwater harvesting. Changing to keep because of the recent article cleanup. However, I'd like to see it moved to Water conservation in the United Kingdom per my reason below.--SGCM (talk)  05:49, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge with Rainwater harvesting which is the same topic. There doesn't seem to be much need for a split by country yet. Warden (talk) 07:40, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:27, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Improve. I've already gone ahead and added references, history, UK-specific details, etc. There's still a lot of unreferenced stuff which appears incorrect, so I'd encourage everyone to just go and fix it. Remove things, add things, do what you like. This subject is pretty easy to Google. You'll make Wikipedia better (and faster) if you stop with these Byzantine complaint processes and just be bold. -NorsemanII (talk) 19:30, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:07, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 01:56, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

 *Merge per Colonel Warden. There really doesn't seem to be enough specific to UK to warrant separate page at this time.--VikÞor |  Talk 02:09, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: I've now updated the article by adding even more UK-specific details to the history section, along with a picture of a 2nd-century rainwater collection tank in Northumberland. On the talk page, I've left plenty of references to the modern situation of rainwater harvesting in England if you'd like to contribute something about that. Be bold.-NorsemanII (talk) 20:42, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge to Rainwater harvesting. Only the History section is UK specific and that can comfortably fit in Rainwater harvesting. --Kvng (talk) 03:40, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: I've added a UK-specific Current status section to the article. Problem solved? I'm sure this is getting to sound like a broken record at this point, but, if the article still isn't good enough for you, be bold. -NorsemanII (talk) 15:52, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It has been sourced and you did a great job improving it, but I still think the scope of the article is too limited. What if the page was moved to Water conservation in the United Kingdom? I would support a similar move for Rainwater harvesting in Kerala and Water restrictions in Australia to Water conservation in Kerala and Water conservation in Australia, respectively.--SGCM (talk)  17:10, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Water conservation is a much broader topic considering all of the different ways it can be (and is) done. I'm actually quite surprised that there isn't such an article already. It would probably be appropriate to create that article and include a summary of this article on it. It might even be appropriate to include this entire article in it, assuming the water conservation article covers other forms of water conservation with about the same level of detail. As it is, I'd feel a bit confused to navigate to a page about water conservation in the UK and find a detailed description of nothing but rainwater harvesting, with all other topics ignored or only briefly mentioned. -NorsemanII (talk) 19:18, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree that water conservation is a much broader topic. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 21:43, 18 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment I've retracted my vote. It seems like the real issue is how to best organize articles around this general subject. I think this sort of discussion is out for scope for AfD and I've alerted the relevant Wikiprojects (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Environment, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject International Development) of the issue. --Kvng (talk) 22:40, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. It is well written, notable enough, and there is too much info for a merge into Rainwater harvesting. It would create a bit of geographical bias. There is a need for a Water in the United Kingdom article (see Category:Water in the United Kingdom) and this article would be summarised into it. It is annoying that there are sooo many gaps in the article hierarchy of WP. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 21:43, 18 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment It needs moving to Rainwater harvesting in the United Kingdom. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 21:45, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.