Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raja Isteri Girls High School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Bandar Seri Begawan. Clear consensus not to retain the article, and split/permissive opinions regarding merge v delete, so taking merge per WP:ATD. Daniel (talk) 23:49, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Raja Isteri Girls High School

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Lacks reliable sources fails GNG Impeeriumalo (talk) 07:12, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Impeeriumalo (talk) 07:12, 25 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Do not pass WP:NSCHOOL, WP:GNG. GermanKity (talk) 07:14, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Would you kindly elaborate how it does not pass WP:SCHOOL? Zulfadli51 (talk) 07:24, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, references are not sufficient to prove notability of a school. GermanKity (talk) 17:47, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * If notability can't be shown by references then how can it? If you don't accept references as showing notability then we have to fall back on importance, such as being the first high school for girls in its country. There was recently a change in our guidelines for schools which meant that verified secondary schools are no longer considered automatically notable. That is nothing like guidance that no school outside the Anglophone West can be notable, which seems to be the way that some people are interpreting it. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:40, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I think that perhaps meant that the references currently used in the article don't establish the subject's notability, . GermanKity, it's worth remembering that we need to consider sources that might not currently be used - see WP:BEFORE (B2) on this. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:55, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, I see now. I think the userid threw me a bit because I usually associate such dropping of the definite article with speakers of Slavic languages, not Germans, but I see now that this user is a native speaker of Russian. Phil Bridger (talk) 15:41, 16 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep. Those three sources are reliable. However the article needs to be expanded with History section showing its significance. enjoyer -- talk 07:45, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The article is just barely started. Give it time to be improved. enjoyer -- talk 08:09, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:59, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Brunei-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:00, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I don't understand the nomination or the further "delete" opinion. When nominated the article had two apparently reliable sources, including one that confirmed that this was the first high school for girls in its country. Another has been added since. Was the nominator reading the correct article? Phil Bridger (talk) 09:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as no evidence of any notability, Could be wrong but as far as I know being the oldest of something doesn't automatically grant that thing a right to an article..... nNo objections to merging if desired. – Davey 2010 Talk 22:31, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:BASIC lacks significant coverage. Nytendoz (talk) 17:17, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 22:41, 1 August 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 00:17, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Bandar Seri Begawan. I am on the fence with notability on this, though if the claim "first all-girls school in the country" is true, then there may be scope. That doesn't necessarily make it notable outright though. Bungle (talk • contribs) 17:59, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


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