Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ralph Millet


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The result was   delete. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  18:45, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Ralph Millet

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I'm sure he's a great guy but doesn't meet notability standards. He did not work for the car company, but worked for the U.S. importing company which is, by no means, a Fortune 500 company. It is not much different from the head of the San Diego McDonald's franchisee, which is not McDonald's, but a company that just owns some restaurants in the San Diego area. So Ralph worked for a company and then retired, not an encyclopedic figure. Suzukix (talk) 05:11, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:34, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete fails WP:BIO 08:47, 12 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forgotpassword321 (talk • contribs)


 * Keep - His passing was noted by Motor Trend, establishing that he was a notable person in the car industry, and reinforced by an obit in the New York Times. There are other obits but these two items are sufficient to show that he was notable.  The New York Times doesn't publish obits of nobodies. -- Whpq (talk) 15:07, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - doesn't meet notability guidelines including WP:ANYBIO. Linda Law was in the New York Times like Millet but is equally non-notable.  Amanda Knox is much more reported but has been deemed non-notable (but that's an extreme case of calling someone non-notable).  I think since the man was involved with cars, people seem to think he's important, just like porn stars and actors.  He didn't do anything encyclopedic during his lifetime, just a subsidiary head.  Also the New York Times accepts paid obituaries, see http://www.nytimes.com/pages/obituaries/index.html  Wikipedia is not for sale.  Sorry.Ryan White Jr. (talk) 05:24, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply - I have no idea who Linda Law is, or why she was in the New York Times, and I have no idea why you are using her as point of comparison here as she has not had an article written about here here in Wikipedia, nor has this non-existent article ever been put through AFD for deletion. So such a comparison seems to be completely irrelevant.  Amanda Knox is completely apples and oranges so why bring that up here?  The fact that The NY Times accepts paid death announcements is irrelevant as this particular obituary is not part of their paid death announcements.  It is an article that they decided to run.  This makes it an independent reliable source that has exercised its editorial oversight in the selection of subjects for print.  That is the very definition of the type of reliable source that is need to establish notability. -- Whpq (talk) 10:56, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - I left Wikipedia before because of the constant fighting and this is a clear example of it. Let's be reasonable.  This guy is obscure but the topic of cars is very popular.  Wikipedia is not supposed to be American-centric so would the president of Jasari Auto, the importer of Saab to Malaysia, be the subject of a Wikipedia article, along with the importers of Saab to Canada, Brazil, Italy, Bahrain, etc.?  No, Wikipedia is not a phone directory.  I looked up the Saab article and this person is so obscure that he is not even mentioned.  However, strong feelings to keep are at stake.  A good solution is to mention this guy in the Saab article and then delete the article; I am going to add this guy's name to the Saab article.  This is the compromise solution that also doesn't violate Wikipedia rules about non-notable people. Midemer (talk) 18:54, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete The article doesn't even claim notability for him, much less demonstrate it. --MelanieN (talk) 02:43, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
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