Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ralph Morse (actor)


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 14:11, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Ralph Morse (actor)

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Long detailed with many sources and references. Examining the references they are mostly extremely weak, mostly being not independent or not covering Morse. Nothing in the article shows real notability passed casual appearence. Actor? bit parts such as "Guest" and "Well spoken businessman (uncredited)". "uncredited" turns up very often. Musician? no reliable sources about that outside the teacher/pagan thing. Pagan, Witch, Teacher. Yes that is well sourced from one event. One event being significant. All reliable sources and search results talk of One event. An interview that resulted in a suspension. No notability shown passed that one event. WP:ONEEVENT suggests that Morse should not be the subject of an encyclopedia entry. (Article construction and history strong suggests a conflict of interest and the number of editors primarily interested in Morse suggests something else)Duffbeerforme (talk) 13:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I am also nominating the following related pages based on similar non references, common interest, cruft and non notability:


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 14:28, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Most of the references are works by Morse himself. None available online (yes, I know everything isn't online, but damn). As an actor, he fails WP:ENT. As a musician, he fails WP:MUSICBIO, his mid-level position in the Pagan Federation isn't notable and the article smells of self-promotion or of someone trying to promote him. Can't see him passing WP:CREATIVE for writing the play. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with everything Niteshift36 stated. BioDetective2508 (talk) 20:09, 29 June 2009
 * Reduce to one concise article .  As the creator and most prominent editor of all three articles, and having read the comments about them, I feel honour bound to defend the integrity of the subject as well as my reasons for writing them.  Firstly, I would like to dispel any myths that these are self promoting articles and am quite offended for the subject that anyone should think so.  Dr Morse has spent the bulk of his professional career working within the community and is entirely focussed on the projects with which he is involved.  Of course I know the subject, but do not feel that somehow disqualifies me from writing about him.  I created the pages because I genuinely believe that the cumulative effect of the sterling work Dr Morse has undertaken across a range of arts disciplines makes him notable.  His performance career is not based solely on "bit" parts in film and television and resent the impliaction that he is somehow not a true actor.  He is an award winning theatre actor from the highly prestigious Rose Bruford College.  Furthermore, the pagan aspect is not merely about a suspension, but rather a quite public persecution that lead to false allegations of assault through which Dr Morse lost employment. (I understand that much of the legal process is still ongoing and sub judice).  I am prepared to accept that one concise article is probably preferable to three, but do not accept that Ralph Morse is not notable.  George Abaris George Abaris (talk) 08:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - none of the references have adequately addressed the issue of notability. \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 12:24, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
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