Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ramiele Malubay


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Per WP:SNOW and/or WP:IAR, no need for this to run any longer. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 15:13, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Ramiele Malubay

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Delete. After Articles for deletion/Alexis Grace (2nd nomination) saw a “delete” outcome, I feel that the time has come to determine which of the American Idol contestants truly deserve their own articles. WP:NOTINHERITED tells us that just because somebody appeared on American Idol, it doesn’t make them notable and worthy of an article. This fails WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO. She appears to have released some singles, but none have charted. They’ve done nothing worthy of note since they appeared on American Idol. DJ 12:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to American Idol (season 7), Fails WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO.  young  american  (wtf?) 13:26, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 18:37, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

This sort of mass nomination is unproductive because it leads to people voting based on "I like it"/"I don't like it" since no one can reasonably be expected to properly research 38 articles of the same nature in a week. (Indeed this has already begun to happen.) Since the results of these AfDs are likely to be influenced by voting rather than a proper discussion, they should all be closed with no prejudice against reopening a few at a time after a good faith attempt to determine notability has been made. --ThaddeusB (talk) 22:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close as a (unintentionally) disruptive nomination. The nominator rapid fire nominated 38 American Idol contestants all with the same (invalid) rationale that Alexis Grace (who finished 11th and hasn't had a chance to do anything post Idol yet) was deleted.  It is quite clear that he/she made no attempt to research any of the nominations as several quite clearly meet multiple inclusion criteria.  Some of these articles should be kept, and others merged, but none should be deleted.  All arguably meet WP:MUSIC #9: "Has won or placed in a major music competition" by virtue of making the finals of American Idol and the less notable ones should at least be merged with their respective American Idol season X pages.
 * Speedy close per ThaddeusB. Jeni  ( talk ) 00:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Aside from the unproductive nature of the multiple nominations, this smacks of WP:POINT. Regardless, Notability quite clearly lays out the criteria for notability: If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article. This article most certainly meets the notability guideline, and to say otherwise is absurd. Most likely the others do as well. faithless   (speak)  01:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close per WikiProject Idol series; the Alexis Grace deletion was improper per that guideline, and this one is even more so. --RBBrittain (talk) 01:47, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close per ThaddeusB. Crafty (talk) 02:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close per ThaddeusB.  Dspradau   → talk   11:57, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
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