Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ramiro Gonzales


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The result was delete. Sam Walton (talk) 21:31, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Ramiro Gonzales

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A couple of attempts have been made at speedy deletion and declined, so I will take to AfD. I could go either way at this point. He is a death row inmate and online coverage seems sufficient. However, I can see how some might invoke WP:BLP1E. I will lean to keep at this point, but I will nominate nonetheless so that the notability issue can be settled right away. Safiel (talk) 19:34, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note I am on the edge on this and I may reconsider my stance on his notability. Wikipedia is not Murderpedia, so I will think on this a bit. I may end up shifting to delete. Safiel (talk) 19:38, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep There is a lot of coverage of his case, plus the story of his victim who was missing for two years before he led the police to her remains (we could be back in a year or two debating whether the film/discovery channel documentary is notable!) XyzSpaniel  Talk Page  21:44, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete simply being a on death row in not notable, nor does it even rate as a claim of significance much like "Bob is an author" is not. As it stands the article is a one line, wholely negative BLP and should not be here. The one source used merely mentions him in passing as someone who is up for execution after a court ruling - just his name - no context, nothing. If it is further developed I will reconsider but as it stands this is a wholely negative BLP that is poorly sourced. J bh  Talk  00:48, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete As nominator, I originally went with weak keep. But after further thought I am shifting to delete. This is Wikipedia, not Murderpedia. The fact that the individual is on death row is not a defining event for notability. There seems to be some notability around events involving the victim. In that case, an article Murder of "Victim's Name" might be appropriate. I am going to invoke WP:BLP1E. Additionally, article is a very poorly sourced, wholly negative, BLP. It does not strictly fall under the requirements of WP:CSD G10 as a negative unsourced BLP, but I think the poor sourcing creates a strong presumption in favor of deletion. Safiel (talk) 18:07, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete nothing causes this individual and the coverage of him to rise to the level of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:28, 9 November 2016 (UTC)


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