Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ramlan Hutahaean


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Lepricavark (talk) 17:08, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Ramlan Hutahaean

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Fails WP:BIO - just 2 low-quality mentions at Google News. Bbarmadillo (talk) 19:28, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Most of about Ramlan Hutahaean isn't available on online sources, only available on newspapers. Remember that he is the secretary general of the largest church in Indonesia. If you want to search some online sources, use the Indonesian Google to do it. Jeromi Mikhael (talk) 23:19, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 11:29, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 11:29, 2 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - It's difficult to judge the notability of someone where the sources to provide notability are in another language, in this case Indonesian. However, as Secretary General of the largest protestant church in Indonesia, with 4.5 million baptised members, he is likely to be notable. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:06, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep but tag as a stub. This is a church whose WP article says it has 4.5M members.  It is headed by a single bishop, with the Secretary General seemingly as the next most important person.  He and predecessors are thus likely to be more notable than many Anglican bishops, for whom we invariably have articles.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:40, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Issue is not with the notability but finding sources in English language. Rzvas (talk) 16:08, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - The position he holds would indicate he meets WP:GNG, but the above editors are correct that more sources need to be done.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:47, 6 August 2018 (UTC)


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