Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ramsgate tugboats


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   speedy . Nom withdrawn, please see below. StarM 02:31, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Ramsgate tugboats

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Poor context to even identify the article's subject.  Burningview    ✉  22:29, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 13:30, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Sounds like a WP:SOFIXIT, not deletion. Whilst the current article is poor (poor context, poor intro, no refs) I assume from the creator's GF that Ramsgate did have some notable stable of tugs based there and subject to the usual need for sourcing, there's no reason why this article needs to be deleted. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep and clean up. B.Rossow talk contr 18:06, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep and move to Ramsgate tug, which is the common name for the subject. Sources are available from Google Books. Phil Bridger (talk) 11:43, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 16:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 16:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. This subject may be better covered in a wider-ranging article on the Ramsgate lifeboat. From the sources that I've looked at so far it seems that the primary use of the tugs was to assist with lifeboat rescues either by towing the lifeboat itself or by towing ships from the treacherous sandbanks in the area, such as the Goodwin Sands. Whatever happens this content should be preserved in some form. I'm sure that the people shown in the lifeboat here (the tug is off-picture to the right - you can see the rope) thought the tug was notable! I'm sure that the Ramsgate lifeboat itself is notable, covering, as it does, the most dangerous part of the world's busiest shipping lane. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Further comment. I've made a start on sourcing and expanding this article, but am reluctant to put in any more work until the threat of deletion has been lifted - I've already put in a few hours work which will come to nothing if this is deleted. I haven't yet gone beyond the narrow brief of the Ramsgate tug, but, if the nominator and the keep !voters agree, I would like to develop the article further by moving it to Ramsgate lifeboat and expanding the scope. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:51, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per comments I the nominator would like to withdraw my request for this article to be deleted.   Burningview    ✉  01:16, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.