Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ranald MacDonald Award


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The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 07:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Ranald MacDonald Award

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I haven't got access to one of the sources (the book) so I can't comment on that, but none of the other sources currently in the article give the award significant coverage. I looked for better sourcing online, but found nothing that was independent and significant. Even if the book does give the award significant coverage, this would need more sources to pass WP:GNG. Girth Summit  (blether) 11:59, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
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 * dear girth,


 * i obliged, when writing the lemma... four of the five winners are to be found in the english wikipedia... in two of their entries the ranald macdonald award is mentioned... so i decided after three years to publish a lemma on the award...


 * as for the book cited in the entry, that is simply the source of the citation...


 * for the rest of the references, i aimed at informing the reader about works and names, not known in the english wikipedia... which, apparently, was a mistake...


 * as for my new references, i copied a reference from the page about zia haider rahman, to which i did not contribute, and formulated the new ones exactly as that old one...


 * well, that is what i can do...


 * if ever the entry on the ranald macdonald award is 'off side' and will be removed, i will be the last to oppose the decision... as i already said, i obliged...


 * sincerely,


 * fred dijs


 * ps... i do not do hiding... when you read fred dijs, it is fred dijs...

Fred Dijs (talk) 03:01, 10 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fred Dijs (talk • contribs) 21:49, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Fred Dijs - in nominating this page for deletion, I did not mean to imply any bad faith on your part, I'm sure that you created this page with the best of intentions. When reviewing new pages, one of the things we consider is whether the subject has been written about in sufficient reliable sources to be considered notable enough to warrant a separate article. I have no problem with the award being mentioned on the pages of recipients who are themselves notable, but I'm just not confident that there are enough sources about the award itself for it to pass the general notability guideline. I hope that makes sense. Girth Summit  (blether)  08:14, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


 * dear girth,


 * once again, i only wrote this entry to enable users of the ENGLISH wikipedia to get an answer to the question 'ranald macdonald award?' or, in other words, to make the ENGLISH encyclopedia more coherent...


 * in other languages, including dutch, the question will not arise because the awarded works and/or makers do not figure in those encyclopedias...


 * as for the changes i made, you will notice that users are now able to verify the book citation at google books and do not have to look for mentions of the award...


 * i kept the references to PINC for frederik van oudenhoven and to Stockholm University for jamila haider for the user to have a 'one click' introduction to those two persons, not figuring in the english wikipedia...


 * i introduced the column 'Type' in the table...


 * this is the best i can do, so i will wait for the english wikipedia community, including you, to decide on the proposed deletion...


 * i appreciate, by the way, our discussion, because i am an avid user of the english wikipedia, which is in my eyes, by far, the best, and now i experience personally that its content is well protected...


 * sincerely,


 * fred dijs

Fred Dijs (talk) 10:49, 10 June 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Viztor (talk) 02:52, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I cannot find WP:SIGCOV. Notable book prizes, not just the Pulitzer, but the Russell Prize or Ribalow Prize generate coverage every year when they are awarded. Feel free to ping me if someone finds coverage of thei prize, I am always willing to be persuaded by solid sources.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:41, 18 June 2019 (UTC)


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