Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ranch Road 1


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The result was   Keep, with the expansion, consensus has shifted and believes that the article is notable. Davewild (talk) 18:28, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Ranch Road 1

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Delete unsourced oneliner about a road that bypasses a former president's ranch, is that sufficient to confer notability? If so, let's break out the maps of Plains, GA; and Santa Barbara, CA, Crawford, TX, to find out what roads are near the ranches and farms of some other former presidents and soon to be former president. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. no notability whatsoever. Czar Brodie (talk) 19:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a state-designated road straddling two counties. WillOakland (talk) 21:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:N. It is hardly surprising or notable that a road led to the ranch of L.B. Johnson. Edison (talk) 03:35, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - I'm usually kind to roads, but an ordinary ranch road being notable just because it's near LBJ's ranch? I don't think so. --Oakshade (talk) 05:51, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep for now based on TheCatalyst31's expansion. Per general consensus on state designated highways.  If there is something historical or unique about it, that would help convince a lot more editors. --Oakshade (talk) 20:29, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

(talk) 08:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirected to "Farm-to-market road" until someone writes a decent stub. WillOakland
 * This is a state highway: and the only "Ranch Road" as opposed to the more common "Ranch to Market Road": . I'm not sure about the notability of FM/RM roads in general, and the article's really not great, but being the only one of its type should be worth something, as well as being old US 290. Maybe there should be a list of park roads in Texas, with this mentioned in it; it's technically not one, but serves what is essentially a park, and there are two in the same area:  --NE2 13:46, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep now that it's expanded. --NE2 03:55, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a state-designated highway, and farm-to-market roads/ranch-to-market roads are generally considered notable. This road also has the distinction of being the only RM road designatied as a Ranch Road, as mentioned above. As for the quality, I've expanded it so it's at least a decent stub now. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 19:08, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per above this is a state-designated and maintained road.  If it's removed, then all Farm to Market and Ranch to Market roads in Texas and all county road articles for the U.S. will technically need to be removed as well.  25or6to4 (talk) 22:18, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a state-designated and -maintained road. It is part of Texas's secondary highway system. I'm not absolutely convinced of secondary highways' notability, however, compared to the higher bar that's set for the primary system (if it were a really important road, it'd be bumped up to primary status, no?) but what notability it loses from being in the secondary system, it regains from being the street LBJ lives on. So, adding up the minuses and the pluses, you get a "keep" vote from me. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 07:02, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


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