Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Randall Cunningham II


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The result was   keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:13, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Randall Cunningham II

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Doesn't meet the guidelines laid out at WP:NTRACK or WP:NGRIDIRON, as a high schooler. Note that notability is not inherited. Ansh666 07:41, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn - when I first nominated it, TTT apparently wasn't done yet, so some of the more important details weren't in there yet. Now it's got a lot more, and I'd say passes WP:GNG. Ansh666 19:29, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * While this article has peoples' attention, we should consider whether it should be located at its current location or Randall Cunningham, Jr.. I am unsure whether the widespread 2013 use of the II means he is already a father or something else.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:11, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The suffix II is usually used for a grandson who bears the name of a grandfather or a nephew the name of his uncle or other non-immediately-direct ancestor. The suffix III would indicate the son of a II or Junior or the same circumstances which would see someone have II instead of Junior. In a more rare instance it is used when siblings have the same name and the younger was named after the pre-deceased older sibling. Then there is the personal preference of the parents and the person himself which may not adhere to norms.  He may use II but the style guide of some publication may demand a change to Jr. even though it is not what he personally uses or is personally known as.  An example would be John Jacob Astor I who is technically himself a Junior (or whatever the German equivalent is) though he Anglicised his name from Johann Jakob to John Jacob and instead his son was known as the Junior and the name was passed around his descendants for many generations and not so many people know that in English John Jacob Astor I's father's name would be John Jacob Astor. I think there is one instance where a father-to-son actually skips a number because of a cousin who was born in the interim and got the name.  delirious  &amp;  lost  ☯ ~hugs~ 22:11, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep He passes WP:GNG some sources use, Jr. and other II.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:48, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 08:09, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 08:09, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nevada-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 08:09, 6 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Weak Merge - This is a tough call, here; there are quit a few sources justify an article, but I still don't feel the subject is noteable enough to justify his own article per WP:NTRACK or WP:NGRIDIRON. Maybe when he goes to college and plays for a team, we can re-create this article. Right now I feel it should be merged to Randall Cunningham. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  18:04, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * If you agree that there are quite a few sources, you should be reminded that WP:GNG is sufficient and if it passes GNG and fails WP:NTRACK or WP:NGRIDIRON, it is customary to keep an article. I.e., GNG pass overrules fail of any particular notability guideline such as NTRACK or NGRIDIRON.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:32, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. It's supported, apparently, that the guy jumped 7 feet 3.25 inches!  And he set U.S. national records. -- do  ncr  am  18:47, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - National record-setting, and passes WP:GNG; once GNG is met the "local standards" become irrelevant, and in this case GNG is met. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:12, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep -- The records are notable enough to get plenty of publicity in reliable sources. His tracks records have nothing to do with his dad and should not be cluttering up his dad's article as an aside. --(AfadsBad (talk) 20:14, 12 September 2013 (UTC))
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