Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Randall Dunn


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Curbon7 (talk) 04:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Randall Dunn

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Non-notable musician. Fails both WP:NMUSIC and WP:GNG. Sources are either primary, databases or interviews. The best RS found in the article is this:. The second best is this but it is a review of the soundtrack of a non-notable film that goes on to praise the 3 contributors a bit, so I don't think it counts towards GNG. Found nothing else online. Mottezen (talk) 20:06, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Mottezen (talk) 20:06, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep I'll start by saying that producers do not usually get write-ups and so the music project should probably come up with specific critera for them (such as volume of work or awards) because we don't have anything other than WP:GNG to reply on. I was fully intending to say delete based on the article itself, but I did WP:BEFORE and was shocked to find that he had a bio at AllMusic, and it's longer than many bands who charted once and so are kept on Wikipedia: https://www.allmusic.com/artist/randall-dunn-mn0000402533/biography. There's also a write-up in a trade magazine: https://tapeop.com/interviews/114/bonus-randall-dunn/ and an interview elsewhere https://thecreativeindependent.com/people/musician-and-producer-randall-dunn-knowing-when-the-time-is-right/ > I stopped looking on Google's page 5, but the hits were getting low as there is a chartered accountant who appears and others, including a hymn writer: https://hymnary.org/person/Dunn_JR1 . Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:28, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete These refs are very poor for a BLP. One is a profile, one is a interview in a fringe magazine. There is some passing mentions on him, but not much else. Fails WP:SIGCOV and no indication fo passing WP:PRODUCER.   scope_creep Talk  23:29, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment That "fringe magazine" is The Stranger (newspaper). It is hardly fringe, but is a highly notable alternative press which has been in circulation since 1991. It has a circulation of >60,000 and a website that draws 5 million visits per month. Gaff (talk) 14:24, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 22:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Maybe new references were added since article was submitted to AfD? Seems like a notable producer in the "alternative music" scene, with a prolific catalog. Multiple interviews and articles cited from "alternative news" and "indie music" magazines/newspapers, like Seattle's The Stranger and others from different places, so not just a regionally important figure. Gaff (talk) 23:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep as has a substantial staff written bio in AllMusic and other coverage such as The Stranger and Pitchfork, and passing WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 01:47, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete No demonstration of significant coverage nor any honorary or awards due to the subject's impact and contribution. Multi7001 (talk) 18:19, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per source analysis by Atlantic306. There's enough coverage here to pass GNG.4meter4 (talk) 21:56, 5 September 2021 (UTC)


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