Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Randy Leach


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:50, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Randy Leach

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Being a missing person is not inherently notable; coverage of such an event in local press is run of the mill and does not affirm notability. Wikipedia is not a memorial site. A nicely written article, but regrettably the subject does not appear to meet inclusion guidelines. RichardOSmith (talk) 07:06, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's a bizarre case, but unfortunately hasn't generated the significant coverage required for Wikipedia. There is apparently a play about it, Leaves of Words, but that hasn't got anything but local coverage either. DoctorKubla (talk) 10:23, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 20:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 20:01, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. As the author, I took the time to look at other missing person articles on Wikipedia to see if this was something that could be included here. There are many articles as part of the category that don't seem to make notability standards including Tara Grinstead, who has just local sources and a Find A Grave memorial as references; Disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley who has one CNN article as a reference; Ann Gotlib, who also only has local sources as references and the only major difference is that her kidnapper was possibly found dead. There is actually a similar case to Randy Leach on Wikipedia: Disappearance of Robin Graham who disappeared in 1970. All of her references are from local sources all before 1990.


 * Based on at least two dozen articles I read from the Missing Persons category, I felt the Randy Leach case met the guidelines at least on a small scale based on how long he's been missing, how law enforcement has handled the case and the bizarre circumstances. Bhall87Four Scoreand Seven 03:26, 20 June 2012 (UTC)


 * WP:WAX explains why your comparison against other articles is an invalid way of making a case. I would say that making the comparison actually supports the deletion argument:800,000 children go missing in the US each year, and Wikipedia has articles on virtually none of them. RichardOSmith (talk) 06:57, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per Bhall87 and it seems to have coverage, as a simple Google search showed. Leaves of Words further demonstrates this notability. Cyan  Gardevoir  (used EDIT!) 23:05, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep-coverage, notability.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:14, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. A search of Google News Archives turns up a number of articles in the Lawrence Journal-World and a few in the Kansas City Star, but nothing suggesting wider coverage.  Complicating the search, I found another mysteriously-disappeared Randy Leach, who was last seen in Idaho Falls in 1980 (source).  Any missing person who isn't quickly found is going to generate lots of local coverage; to me, the lack of wider coverage makes for WP:GNG failure.  Ammodramus (talk) 00:25, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 18:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - a horrible case, but an all too common circumstance. This does not appear to have gotten any National coverage. Bearian (talk) 20:53, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Unfortunate, but not notable. Specifically, does not meet WP:NNEWS or WP:BLP1E. If BLP does not apply, then would likely need to deal with as WP:CRIME - which the article and sources also do not meet. The overall failing is that the sources are local routine coverage without large geographic scope or reliable in-depth reporting. --Tgeairn (talk) 21:34, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Does not meet WP:CRIME and WP:N. - DonCalo (talk) 11:46, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete with Comment It is likely that most (if not all) the articles mentioned by the author (specifically Tara Grinstead, Disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley, Ann Gotlib and Disappearance of Robin Graham should be deleted as well. None of these seem to pass WP:N in general and while all are indeed tragic, they would otherwise be low profile individuals and would unlikely have been covered at all if not for their disappearance.  The three conditions of WP:BLP1E all apply here and therefore the article(s) should be deleted.  Vertium   (talk to me)  21:08, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
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