Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raphaël Colantonio


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The result was keep. czar 01:15, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Raphaël Colantonio

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While some of his games are notable, there is no independent coverage of the person to establish biographic notability. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions.   CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   05:55, 8 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep or merge to Arkane Studios When this article was created (linked to from another article I was working on) I added four references I had used elsewhere that were interviews and discussions with Colantonio about him and his background in making Arkane. I think there's enough in these to expand to a full article, but I also see that most of his notability is tied to Arkane (he worked elsewhere before but that's more a side bit relative to his time with Arkane), so merging with redirection to Arkane Studios also works. --M ASEM (t) 14:19, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete – does not appear to independently meet the relevant notability criteria. Lacking in-depth coverage in a breadth of reliable secondary sources. Citobun (talk) 14:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to Arkane Studios. As a founder of that studio, keeping the redirect makes sense. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 14:02, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - Enough third party sources in the article to justify the subject, even if it remains a stub. If you would like to delete video game developers, I suggest starting with everyone who has worked at Double Fine. - hahnch e n 19:23, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * C'mon, I don't have to cite WP:OTHERSTUFF, do I? soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 08:07, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not arguing that this should be kept because "other stuff" exists. I argued it should be kept on it's own merits, and then I suggested other things you should delete. - hahnch e n 11:47, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You're voting keep, saying it has enough sources, but at the same time suggesting that we delete articles about other video game designers. You don't have to do that last part. I could be wrong, but to me, that reads like WP:WHATABOUTX. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 13:37, 18 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - Undoubtebly notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siberix (talk • contribs) 21:28, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Undoubtedly notable, how? soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 09:55, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:45, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Involved is significant video games. Plenty of sources in a quick BEFORE - both news and books. Many are passing, yes, but there are enough hits it is hard to filter out the passing ones.Icewhiz (talk) 20:52, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
 * That Colantonio is involved with making significant video games does not make him notable necessarily, per WP:INHERIT. The subject of the article has to be notable by itself. You're saying "it's hard to filter out the passing ones", how so? Have you checked the WP:VG/RS custom Google search engine? Type in "raphaël colantonio" and you'll get some results. For me, in my opinion, an interview with him about his work, him being mentioned in the context of his works or about the studio he works at is not significant coverage about the person Colantionio. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 08:07, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I see lots of items also in the custom google search you linked (which I admit I haven't tried before). Hard to filter out in the sense that when you have a large bunch of passing mentions (which is to a certain extent an indication of notability) - going over them takes time. But here are a few non-passing items that aren't in the article:     . If he has an independent professional persona from the firm(s) he's involved with - meeting GNG - that's OK. You don't have to have coverage of his favorite color or kids (or lack thereof).Icewhiz (talk) 08:28, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * As well as 3 pages full of google-books results - - Most of them without preview access (even snippet) unfortunately - too new.Icewhiz (talk) 08:30, 18 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Changing to keep. Ha, by holding 's feet to the fire they've managed to convince me. They were more thorough and have come up with other sources, which show that Colantonio is notable as video game designers beyond Arkane. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 10:41, 18 May 2017 (UTC)


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