Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rapture of the Deep (novel)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  00:48, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Rapture of the Deep (novel)

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Non-notable book. JJLiu112 (talk) 18:07, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. JJLiu112 (talk) 18:07, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to L.A. Meyer. Though one can find a trivial review or two, this book does not meet WP:NBOOK on its own strength and should be re-directed to the author's page. JohnmgKing (talk) 14:59, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to L.A. Meyer - I've also been unable to find coverage of the book in reliable sources, or sufficient reviews to pass WP:NBOOK. The best I found was this short review from the Bangor Daily News. Redirecting to the author's page is a clear WP:ATD, though. Rorshacma (talk) 18:00, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't think a redirect would be useful. We uh... We also need to consider deleting Bloody Jack (novel), Curse of the Blue Tattoo, Under the Jolly Roger, In the Belly of the Bloodhound, Mississippi Jack, My Bonny Light Horseman, The Wake of the Lorelei Lee, and The Mark of the Golden Dragon after this close. SWinxy (talk) 23:34, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Notability (books) says: "A book is presumed notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources, at least one of the following criteria:The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book."  The review notes: "“Rapture of the Deep” is filled with figures from Jacky’s past, some aiding her, others serving as obstacles in her path. In this latest, adventure-packed installment, Jacky continues to mature and become more respectable, but proves she’s still the poor London street urchin readers discovered in the first book of the series. Here’s hoping she never grows up entirely."  The review notes: "She taunts and teases every man she meets and seems not to care about running around naked or half-naked in front of them. There is much sexual innuendo and an attempted rape scene. The secondary characters seem to be little more than cardboard cutouts, especially the pirates. Fans of the series will eat this title up, but for a better-drawn heroine in a historical adventure, try Jennifer Holm's excellent "Boston Jane" series (HarperCollins)."  The review notes: "If there were an Olympic gold medal for verbal gym- nastics, Kellgren would certainly be a contender. In her reading of this seventh title in the Bloody Jack series (three previous audios are Odyssey Award honor titles, beginning with Bloody Jack: Being an Account of the Curious Adventures of Mary “Jacky” Faber, Ship’s Boy in 2008), Kellgren expertly juggles Jacky’s Cockney accent, the proper upper-class British tones of Higgins and fiancé Jamie, various speech patterns of Spanish and Caribbean officers and merchants, and the softly cadenced southern tones of Jemima, a cook Jacky buys at a Charleston slave market and promptly sets free."  The review notes: "Meyer weaves details of nineteenth-century history, lore, and ballads into a fast-paced and often amusing swashbuckler. Fans of the Bloody Jack Adventure series will relish the latest escapades of this decidedly unconventional heroine."  According to this pageInternet Archive, Shoreline Area News has editorial oversight. The review notes: "Action, adventure, brawling, singing, dancing, swimming and shooting.  Bloody Jack fans, rejoice! This series is recommended for readers--and listeners-ages 8 to adult. The story contains some minor cussing (in English and Spanish), and some bloodshed (including post-battle medical scenes) and some very tactful sexual references, none of which should alarm any but the most fainthearted of readers."</li> <li>Additional reviews from this Amazon page:<ol> <li>"The author has done his homework, weaving many painless history lessons into the book. With its strong female character, fast pace, and fine writing, this will be a book difficult for the young adult reader to put down and one that will leave the reader craving the next title." —Children's Journal <li>"Fans who have read the previous titles in the series will be treated to a fresh escapade and familiar characters but the story can stand alone for new readers. This will appeal to anyone who enjoys historical fiction, strong female heroines, adventure, and pirates." —VOYA </ol></li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Rapture of the Deep to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 07:26, 16 April 2023 (UTC) </li></ul> Relisting comment: For evaluation of the sources provided above. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:36, 19 April 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:41, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Keep The sources seem fine. The Bangor News Journal isn't the NYT, but it's a review, the rest are fine when put together to meet notability. Oaktree b (talk) 02:51, 27 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep given sources found by Cunard. Some are short, but cobbled together, I think this meets NBOOK/GNG requirement of at least two independent, in-depth sources. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:12, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree the book is notable Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 04:36, 2 May 2023 (UTC)


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