Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raquel Vélez


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. By a pure nose count this might be a "no consensus", but the arguments that specifically address whether there's enough referencing to write a biography on this individual overwhelmingly indicate that there is not. Seraphimblade Talk to me 13:49, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Raquel Vélez

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Seems to be a vanity or fan page mostly supported by non RS. Notability seems lacking. Greglocock (talk) 10:35, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - not notable per GNG. Kierzek (talk) 12:47, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Beyond her accomplishments in robotics and software development, Vélez is a very visible and approachable role model for minorities who may not otherwise be able to picture themselves working in these fields. With the current national discussion about women and minorities not pursuing STEM fields, actively pruning the few articles about non-white-male technologists is counterproductive.Sriracha peas (talk) 18:19, 13 August 2015 (UTC) — Sriracha peas (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep. Certainly notable in the technology community and there are a significant amount of examples of notability and attention from outside sources. As mentioned above removing articles about a woman and minority who is a thought leader in the STEM field serves to do more harm than good. Jeremy Morgan (talk) 18:35, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Raquel Vélez is indeed a very notable member of the tech community, and to be honest, she is very well known and a role model for many. Her trajectory is an achievement after another. Her contributions to open-source projects used by millions, quite remarkable. Specially but not limited to, her work in the development of the Node.js package manager, an open-source project that is now being used by half of the applications anybody uses in their mobile phones or desktop computers (even companies like PayPal, Microsoft of the Linux Foundation rely on it). She is also one of the main (and first) developers of NodeBots, which are the next generation of drones, quadcopters and other Arduino type devices. The article has been updated with references from NASA, MIT, USA Today, Wired, and the Linux Foundation. Meea (talk) 19:20, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are several references on the page that qualify for GNG. She would be on any short list of either leaders in Node or notable latinas in tech. Thomblake (talk) 18:05, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment- closer Please note that at least one of the above is a single purpose account. Greglocock (talk) 00:33, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
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 * Comment on sources GNG says 'The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the topic itself (or of its manufacturer, creator, author, inventor, or vendor) have actually considered the topic notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works of their own that focus upon it—without incentive, promotion, or other influence by people connected to the topic matter.' The vast majority of the refs in the article are industry trade stuff, not independent of the topic. Nasa talking about its interns is not independent of the topic, and so on.Greglocock (talk) 21:40, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95  Talk  15:36, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: Need more information There are so many references that it would take too long to wade through them all to see if significant coverage about this person (as distinct from her projects) exists. If anyone has already done so, please post the "best" handful of references from unquestionably reliable sources which, as a group, clearly demonstrate that this person has received significant coverage from reliable sources, independent of the subject and independent of each other.  Once this is done, then this should be a no-brainer "keep" as this is the very definition of Wiki-notability.  If it cannot be done because such coverage does not exist, then it's probably a no brainer "delete" as this is the very definition of a lack of Wiki-notability.  If it would just take more effort to do than anyone reading this has time for before the discussion closes, then the result of this AFD may not reflect the actual level of notability of this person.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  01:37, 27 August 2015 (UTC)


 * MSM analysis So the first USA today ref uses a one sentence quote from her, in the second somebody met her. The Wired article doesn't mention her at all. So for MSM we have a meeting between the subject of a story at which something unnamed happened, and in the other she is quoted. That seems a stretch for notability.Greglocock (talk) 07:02, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by MSM? I assume you're not referring to Manual of Style/Mathematics -- RoySmith (talk) 13:44, 28 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. Sadly, I don't see the required reliable, independent, quality sources.  There's a ton of references in the article, but they're mostly blogs, social networking sites, etc.  The few that are in mainstream media are either interviews or passing mentions, neither of which establish notability by our guidelines.  I'm all for supporting diversity in tech; but being a latina developer, even a highly successful one, is not by iteslf a criteria to establish notability, if the WP:RS aren't there to back it up.  -- RoySmith (talk) 12:34, 28 August 2015 (UTC)


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