Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ras Al Khaimah Media Free Zone


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The result was delete. -- Scott Burley (talk) 07:28, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Ras Al Khaimah Media Free Zone

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Doesn't appear to meet the notability guidelines for organisations (the subject is a free trade zone, so a sort of organisation, though not a company) or the general notability guideline. I haven't been able to find any sources that are any more substantial or any more recent than those in the article, so I think deletion is preferable to merging this into Ras Al Khaimah. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:30, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:32, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finance-related deletion discussions.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:32, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep with Merge. Merge with Ras Al Khaima as per short text in WP:MERGEREASON.-- PA TH  SL OP U  16:53, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 19:50, 12 April 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete There's almost no text, just a list of individuals associated with the subject. The sources are all 2006/2007, and they are all reporting announcements that the zone will be set up - there's nothing saying that it ever actually was. I did find this, which might be related or something else entirely - but none of the people listed on our article are mentioned on the 'leadership' page. So we can't tell whether the zone ever actually came into existence, and we are listing people by name who seem not to be involved with it any more if it was set up. Delete and start again with a new article under the proper name (probably Ras Al Khaima Economic Zone, with a small section about the Media Zone). Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:script;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:#F00">D</b><b style="color:#F60">u</b><b style="color:#090">s</b><b style="color:#00F">t</b><b style="color:#60C">i</b>*Let's talk!* 02:59, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Merge The article is terrible. The subject is notable on the basis of its citations.  I'm not aware of a recency criteria when it comes to a notability judgement.  It could be defunct, but still notable.  It was covered with significance in Gulf News and Khaleej Times, both of which are reliable and secondary, and probably as independent as you'll find when it comes to local politics in a small country. romnempire (talk) 04:38, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Change of heart, I think this is unlikely to be expanded, so per WP:ATD-M it should get merged somewhere. romnempire (talk) 04:56, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Quick question - Romnempire did you notice that all of the sources (which I agree are reliable) are talking about an announcement of something that was going to happen? They none of them say that this zone was ever actually set up. As far as I've been able to work out, it never was, or it was set up as a sub-zone of the RAKEZ. Cheers Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:script;color:blue;"> (blether)  06:10, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - Girth So according to the gulf news article, the Media Free Zone was supposed to be established under the corporate management of the investment authority (RAKIA).  As far as I can tell, RAKIA was given its mandate by Emiri Decree No. 2 of 2005 and RAKIA was merged into RAKEZ by Law No. 2 of 2017, probably in response to the khater massad case.  As far as I can tell, the Media Free Zone was never intended to be an independent corporate entity.  I think we're laboring under the misapprehension the Media Free Zone is an "organization".  It is probably just a room in an office somewhere with the delegated authority to establish FZ LLCs for Media purposes and grant leases to land in a delegated office park to those LLCs.  But that's a moot point, notability doesn't depend on an entity's status as an organization.  And, on the subject of moot points, an entity doesn't even need to have actually existed to be notable.  I think these people on this page were involved in building a "film city" as an entity licensed by the Media Free Zone, and that venture collapsed.  But the page wasn't about them, and the sources weren't about them, they were about the issuing authority that brokered their relationship with the government of Ras al Khaimah.  I think the appropriate course of action is to remove the people from the page on the basis that they aren't actually relevant to the subject of the article, and then merge the article itself and its sources into Ras_Al_Khaimah_Investment_Authority, and then update the RAKIA page to be a page on RAKEZ.  A delete might be easier, but I don't think it's technically the right thing to do. romnempire (talk) 01:09, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Romnempire, you obviously did a your homework there! If there would be any content left after the removal of the people's names, I'd agree with you about a merge - however, the article only makes two other assertions. It says that the finance company is Ramshir & Asr Farasazan Pars (despite the fact that this company isn't mentioned in any of the refs), and it says that the Free City was launched in 2006 - that's it, nothing else. I don't see the point of merging that. I would be in favour of improving and expanding Ras_Al_Khaimah_Investment_Authority in the ways you suggest though. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:script;color:blue;"> (blether)  07:18, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Delete. fails WP:CORP. No inherent notability. Ok... so it exists.. and existence isn't notability. Graywalls (talk) 01:43, 25 April 2019 (UTC)


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