Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rati Tsiteladze (4th nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  17:04, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Rati Tsiteladze
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The article was a repost from a AfD deleted article but the Db-repost was declined because apparently there was includes clear and sufficient claims of significance postdating previous AFD. I disagree with that and consider the issues leading to the last AfD delete (last July) to still hold with no new significant information. He does not meet WP:NACTOR and as with all the previous AfDs the martial arts claims are questionable. Does not meet WP:KICK or WP:MANOTE Peter Rehse (talk) 13:58, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 13:58, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 14:16, 4 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete This article keeps getting recreated, but there's still nothing that shows he's notable. Previous discussions have shown he's not notable as a martial artist and he's done nothing to add to that resume. The only change to his directing resume was submitting another film to some minor film festivals (no wins) and that's enough enough to show notability. There's also nothing to show he meets WP:NACTOR. His entire resume is little changed from the previous deletion discussions.Mdtemp (talk) 15:18, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep About "the martial arts claims are questionable." - I have founded actual footage and TV news about the European championship he won And also I’ve founded about the World championship he won  About the Criteria supporting notability "Actors, models, and celebrities: Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following." He has 199,600 likes on Facebook Verified Page and also here is the actual visual evidence:  As a "Martial Artist Subject of multiple independent articles/documentaries--articles should be from national or international media, not just local coverage or press releases from organizations." He has been featured in a lot of national news  and also there are international articles (Russian, Ukraine).   And also he was in many very well knowns Georgian talk shows:    I think no need to delete.Mariam Abashidze (talk) 04:23, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * His kickboxing title doesn't make him notable because it's a minor organization and he fails to meet WP:NKICK. Facebook likes, youtube videos, and passing mentions also fail to meet GNG.Mdtemp (talk) 14:49, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 11:07, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment He's definitely not notable as a kickboxer or martial artist. I'm not seeing additional accomplishments or coverage since last year's AfD which was a convincing delete once the sockpuppets were discounted. The sources I can see and the arguments made for keeping--his kickboxing and number of facebook likes do not strike me as convincing evidence of WP notability.  I'm not voting to delete, at least not yet, because my computer's firewall prevents me from looking at all of the sources mentioned by Mariam Abashidze.  Right now I don't see the burden of proof for notability being met.  Papaursa (talk) 02:42, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I looked at those sources and don't think they show notability. Most were at the last discussion, one is about his wife, one says he's off to Hollywood to seek fame and fortune. None of that indicates notability or significant neutral coverage. Of course I can't comment about the non-English sources and youtube videos.Mdtemp (talk) 17:20, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak Delete Since he now lives in the United States, I would have expected to find more coverage in English to bolster the claim of notability. I reserve the right to change my vote should more sources be provided. Papaursa (talk) 13:42, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   17:39, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete actually as although the article may be sourced and informative, the current actual contents themselves are not convincing of the needed solidity for an acceptable article, thus Delete for now until better contents and works are available in the future, if at all. SwisterTwister   talk  05:08, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep I wouldn't suggest deleting. In this article which is according to Google is a reliable source is written that he was back in Georgia and was a leading actor for  first joint Georgian-Ukrainian TV series Paradox. That why there is no more coverage in English. There are 6 Russian and Ukraine reliable articles  and there are more articles about him . There are many Georgian articles from past year too, just from Georgian OK! Magazine is 3 articles    there are more  . Regarding the talk shows they discuss his career as former martial artist and now actor/filmmaker. Mariam Abashidze (talk) 10:20, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * You may comment as much as you want at an AfD discussion, but please just vote once. I have struck your second vote.Papaursa (talk) 21:31, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


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