Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ravens Bluff


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The result was redirect to List of Forgotten Realms cities. Content can be merged from the history insofar as consensus allows.  Sandstein  08:00, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Ravens Bluff

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This does not establish notability. TTN (talk) 18:40, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 18:40, 2 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep or merge to List of Forgotten Realms cities. BOZ (talk) 19:32, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge as above, given that the list exists. We have Gateway to Ravens Bluff, The Living City, Inside Ravens Bluff, The Living City and The City of Ravens; links to these articles could be added to the target list, if they're not there already. That said, this may indicate that there are good sources out there; the one third-party source in the article appears to have been affected by linkrot. Josh Milburn (talk) 21:01, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to List of Forgotten Realms cities; there's nothing to merge as the article does not cite independent sources. K.e.coffman (talk) 22:01, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge per BOZ and WP:ATD-M. I'll note that K.e.coffman's opinion is not policy based, in that primary sources are perfectly acceptable to verify uncontroversial content; they just don't count towards notability. Jclemens (talk) 05:24, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Are "In-universe" publications "sources" in the encyclopedia sense of the word? For example, my birth certificate is a primary source. It does not help with establishing my notability, but it contains objective facts about me. I'd like for it to say that I was born on Mars in 2317, but it doesn't :-). The game accessories are not independent of the topic, and pretty much say whatever the in-universe line is. Could you clarify? K.e.coffman (talk) 07:51, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


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