Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ray B. Oladapo-Johnson


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. It used to be bad arguments went along the lines of "it's notable" or "it isn't notable". Now we get !votes that say "meets GNG" and "doesn't meet GNG" with no indication that the sources have actually been evaluated. Thank you to those who have analyzed sources. This has been relisted twice, and I can't see any consensus regarding the notability of this topic in the discussion. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 16:39, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Ray B. Oladapo-Johnson

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This article reads like a LinkedIn profile. If anything, consider moving to High Line -- although only if that article is expanded with people more notable (i.e. key donors, managers with past public sector experience, etc.). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Binna.Burra (talk • contribs) 18:44, October 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:59, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:59, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:03, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment — The rationale is quite correct, it does indeed read like what should be on LinkedIn. But in my experience in combating the Nigerian UPE ring, I would like to say this; the first edit by the nom who by the way just joined 30 minutes ago is the creation of this AFD, In my experience in UPE related activity, I can categorically state that this is a bad faith nomination. For anyone who is familiar with the OrangeMoody scenario, this is exactly what is going on here.Celestina007 (talk) 18:48, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment — Hi Celestina007. This is kind of funny for me. I am a middle-aged Jewish man from New York. I can assure you that I am not involved in Nigerian organized crime or some suppression campaign. I came to Ray's page because, professionally, I dealt with him and when looking him up found his Wiki entry and was  surprised to see one. The tone annoyed me, maybe I was having a bad day. Yes, I only joined 30 minutes ago. I probably have an old login from high school that I can't trace. The original comment/flag for deletion on the Talk page for the article last week or so was before I logged in (not sure if that helps). In any case, even if I was the Nigerian mob, if the article merits deletion for the stated reason, it shouldn't matter right? Binna.Burra (talk) 20:08, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Only the New York Daily Mail source in the article provides significant coverage from a (somewhat) reliable source. The rest of the sources either provide a passing mention or are broken links. A Google search only returned this source which is not enough to be deemed significant. A search of JSTOR and Gale Academic OneFile did not yield results. Z1720 (talk) 01:09, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:44, 12 October 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak keep - while the article needs a lot of work (it's bordering on WP:TNT and WP:NOTRESUME), his work as an arborist in NYC has gotten him significant coverage in a major media market. Bearian (talk) 15:27, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Restating my initial position, there are several flaws with this article. It fails WP:TNT, WP:NOTRESUME, and WP:GNG. I cannot find "significant coverage", there are some dead links, or mentions of him in his official capacity as a mid-level administrator at Friends of the High Line. (There is an interview with him on an watch enthusiast blog website.) A far more notable and quoted executive of the High Line, Robert_Hammond_(High_Line), is appropriately attributed to that organization -- and the profile does not read like a LinkedIn. In fact, some of the language on the page in question (Ray B. Oladapo-Johnson) directly mirrors the "About" section on his LinkedIn page. Binna.Burra (talk) 23:10, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Article needs work but he is notable per VocalIndia (talk) 17:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as has significant coverage in multiple reliable sources such as the New York Daily News and others, so passing WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary imv, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note the nominator has now been blocked as a suspected undisclosed paid editor so this AFD nomination could have been paid for, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 00:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note Please note that I was originally blocked for submitting this petition for article deletion. However I was unblocked as the "paid editing" accusation was re-evaluated. I am not being paid in any direct or indirect way for this article petition. My unsponsored, objective, view that this article does not pass muster WP:SIGCOV. One New York Daily News reference does not merit a person having their own article, namely one that blatantly fails WP:NOTRESUME. If anything, as previously stated, merge into a section on High Line of notable people, of which there are many others. Binna.Burra (talk) 23:42, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG Transcendence (talk) 18:58, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 15:22, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG completly ..  i see no evidence  of  notability   Samat lib (talk) 12:44, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment In my honest opinion, the nominator is may be a sock account with WP:IDONTLIKE or paid AfD nominator per Atlantic306's comment. Because the nominator account is newly created account and no edit on any other articles, moreover As a newbie, he have full knowledge on Wikipedia like a pro-editor or an experienced editor. Isn't this strange? What I hate the most are people who pretend like this.VocalIndia (talk) 20:39, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I read one WP page -- how to delete an article. All the others like WP:SIGCOV I did not know about until others on this page referenced them, and I read those, and agreed and incorporated them. WP:IDONTLIKE is a new one for me, I just reviewed it and I don't feel those examples apply to my rationale. Thanks, Binna.Burra (talk) 17:52, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG. BJackJS  talk 18:15, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep this article has significant coverage and reliable source to justify keeping. Moreover, his work as an arborist in NYC has gotten coverage.185.205.141.120 (talk) 11:43, 31 October 2020 (UTC)


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