Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ray Brown (Magician/Illusionist)


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The result was   delete. WP:SNOW  MBisanz  talk 08:01, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Ray Brown (Magician/Illusionist)
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Notability not established. Lacks significant coverage in 3rd party references. Appears to be a local personality at best. Appears to be autobiographical.Rtphokie (talk) 15:53, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. Even if the claimed media mentions are legit, it's all local stuff. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  16:47, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom; pretty clear-cut case of a vanity page ("living the dream"...) for subject without notability. I've notified the author of this AfD; nominator, please do that yourself when you nominate articles. Drmies (talk) 16:55, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * An award from an The Society of American Magicians would obviously be notable, but I'm having trouble verifying it. I'll see if I can get someone from WikiProject Magic to dig up a source to back it up. - Mgm|(talk) 20:05, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I can't find this award either. (The Young Magician link at http://www.magicsam.com/press/index2.html doesn't work for me. Stage magic is a notoriously hard area to get success in. Someone still at high school is unlikely to be sufficiently notable - and independent sources for notability seem to be lacking. While I wish Ray all luck, I feel the time is not yet for this article. Peridon (talk) 21:59, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I also wish Ray all the success in the world and hope he'll find the fame he's working towards that will make notability a no brainer. I've tried improving the article myself, wikifying the references, cleaning up the prose, etc. but without significant 3rd party coverage this article still isn't up to WP:N standards.--Rtphokie (talk) 02:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Nonnotable biography as it doesn't have the coverage required by WP:N. Themfromspace (talk) 02:31, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per themfromspace. Antics don't help. -- samj in out 15:18, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Please make it vanish, or I suppose, delete. I can't find anything that makes me believe that this is more than a local reasonably talented kid.  I suppose it isn't speedyable?  Fiddle Faddle (talk) 15:33, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. Not yet sufficiently notable.  Give him a few years and then maybe. Thelongview (talk) 15:50, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:BIO. 129.88.65.39 (talk) 15:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


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