Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ray Underhill


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. No one else appears to agree with PhilKnight's additions equating to notability. Wizardman 22:05, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Ray Underhill

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 * Please remove Wiki encyclopedia is not a memoribilia and should not be used as one THANKS IN ADVANCE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.230.212 (talk) 17:09, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. A sad case, but notability has not been established. No independent references at time of nomination. WWGB (talk) 12:13, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails to establish notabilty. WP is not a memorial, etc.  Lugnuts  (talk) 12:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Tragedy he died, so young as well, but as Lugnuts stated, Wikipedia is not a memorial. Death does not establish notability.Raphie (talk) 13:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Retain He's one of the pioneers of skateboarding.  He skated with the likes of Tony Hawk, Lance Mountain, Steve Caballero, and Tommy Guerrero.  Why don't you all reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bones_Brigade?  Ray has been listed on this site long before he became sick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.244.254.54 (talk)
 * RETAIN Just because you don't appreciate the sport and therefore do not follow it's heros, does not mean that Ray was not a legend. Notability certainly must be achieved and in Ray's case - it was and will remain long after his untimely passing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roseymcarter (talk • contribs) 15:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. --72.209.9.165 (talk) 16:35, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Retain Like the one anonymous person said, we did have this article on him for a while before he passed away. deleting it now would just be like deleting it because he had died. He's done enough things in his life to be worthy of an article. – Homestar-winner 03:35, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Retain Death might not establish notability, but being a pioneer and being showcased in feature film does, doesn't it? Deleting this article would be like deleting a singer's entry because he/she hasn't had a hit in a while... – stephdau 15:21, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Retain I completely agree with Homestar-winner and stephdau, why in the hell would you delete this because he died? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.211.130 (talk) 00:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Retain. Ray Underhill was indeed one of the primary forces in modern skating. Inclusion in the "Bones Brigade" without a doubt should entail a Wikipedia entry. Without question. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.44.111.29 (talk) 04:53, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * RETAIN. Skateboard pioneer who had immense notariety world wide since his appearance in Animal Chin, an integral part of skateboard lore. The fact that this is even up for debate is insanity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Builthatch (talk • contribs) 16:26, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * RETAIN Anyone who has followed skateboarding even a little bit will have heard of Ray Underhill. He is highly notable amongst practitioners of the sport. A wikipedia editor's lack of familiarity with the sport or it's pioneers does not constitute lack of notoriety. I don't follow American football and I don't know much about it's players, but if I told a football fan that Deion Sanders or Joe Montana weren't notorious because I don't know anything about them (and I don't), that wouldn't go over well. I think this article is being unfairly treated due to the lack of skateboarding's "mainstream" status amongst laymen. Even with competitions being televised on some channels now, too many people still think of it as having a small underground cult following -- which is obvious given that this article is up for deletion. Nph (talk) 23:26, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - I added some references. PhilKnight (talk) 16:08, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


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