Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ray Vanderby (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 13:55, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Ray Vanderby
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Promotion from artist's managment with dubious Claims (see especially this bloated advert]). Not notable musician. Claims charting but suspiciously there is no sign of any song called Suspicious appearing in the Australian singles chart in 1991. There is no sign of 93-D ever having charted. Claims he wrote Suspicious when it looks like he was one of three co writers (Glenn Wilson, Ralph Marshall, Ray Vanderby). Claims Cosmic Nomads got glaring international reviews but that's not supported. (Glaring? Guessing that's good) Claims a Severed Demons song was voted video of the week on Rage but no such voting takes place. He has done session work and toured in backing bands with big names but notability is not inherited from them. There is a lack of coverage about him in multiple independent reliable sources. duffbeerforme (talk) 09:51, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. WeAreAll Here  talk  10:33, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. WeAreAll</b> Here  <sub style="color:blue">talk  10:33, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete I cannot find any degree of IRS or speciality/significant awards.  Fails WP:GNG regardless of subject.  Aoziwe (talk) 12:31, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep subject was the member of two or more notable groups (see McFarlane mentions at Band of Light, Blackfeather and Doug Parkinson), he has released more than two solo albums (e.g. at least three on Black Market Music see 1), described in IRSes: 2, 3 and 4, his work has aired on radio (see 5 and 6), he has toured nationally & appeared at various festivals. Passes WP:MUSICBIO.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:09, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Whilst he was a member of Blackfeather it was in two very short termed versions that never really did anything, well short of being a prominent member. The other two, he was not a member, he was a touring support. Blackmarket looks to fall short of #5, Their roster seems lacking but that could just be an issue with the current advert pretending to be an entry that is now there. Airing on radio falls short of rotation. Sources? First two local puff, third, PR for the festival he will be playing at, not independent. Touring nationaly is not enough for WP:MUSIC, it requires coverage. duffbeerforme (talk) 10:01, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles (talk) 02:16, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Was this written after hours and one too many? Sample lines: Ray Vanderby is the former lead singer of Australian rock band Cosmic Nomads. He is also the founder and songwriter of Cosmic Nomads, which he formed. Well, shiver me timbers! The Gnome (talk) 13:47, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That's Foster's, mate!! Tapered (talk) 02:56, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete The only reliable source used in the article is an AllMusic page, and none of the albums listed are even rated! The search tools produce one dedicated article at the website of the Australian national broadcaster—and some local blog posts. Out the door. Doesn't meet any requirements of WP:NM Tapered (talk) 02:28, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


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