Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raybak Abdesselem


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The result was delete. Geschichte (talk) 01:24, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Raybak Abdesselem

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Sourcing does not meet WP:GNG, doesn't appear to meet WP:NATHLETE. Previously nominated for PROD by, dePROD by initial editor with the comment Passing WP:Athletes. However, as the subject appears to have only won awards in youth-level championships, my understanding is that this falls short of the SNG. signed,Rosguill talk 21:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. signed,Rosguill talk 21:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. signed,Rosguill talk 21:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. signed,Rosguill talk 21:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. signed,Rosguill talk 21:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - accomplished junior athlete, but meets neither WP:GNG or WP:NSPORTS.  Onel 5969  TT me 21:49, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - If you look closely https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(sports)#Gymnastics he is passing the notability, Artistic gymnasts are presumed notable if they meet any of the criteria below he is passing the notability point 1 and 2 but for junior according to you passing point 2 and point 3 so he is deemed notable. and i asked Onel5969 that if Raybak is not notable then I can provide a few links of other karateka players, so tell me how they have a wikipedia page if they have 2 references, less than Raybak?. Ali_Fadakar Mehdi_Amouzadeh Saleh_Abazari Hamoun_Derafshipour Bahman_Asgari
 * Comment - he's not a gymnast.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:53, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Deleted on french wikipedia (he's a french athlete) : does not meet our criteria there (won only as a junior). And a lot a sock-puppets are trying to recreate and recreate again the article. Cédric Boissière (talk) 14:14, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - I am not the one who created first or edited in french wikipedia nor i am a sock puppet, the sock puppets accounts are banned. Cédric Boissière --CGOV (talk) 14:21, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails WP:GNG and as a junior fails WP:NATHLETE and WikiProject Martial arts/Notability. --John B123 (talk) 20:20, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete All of his success has come as a junior competitor, which has never been considered sufficient to show martial arts notability. All of the references are either routine reporting of sports results or about his upcoming youth competitions.  WP:MANOTE clearly states that martial arts notability must be as "as an adult black belt" competitor.  He has not yet had sufficient success in adult competitions to show WP notability.  There are still Olympic qualifying events left, so it's possible he could still qualify for the Olympics, but right now the article is WP:TOOSOON and WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. Papaursa (talk) 19:41, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


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