Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raymond W. Copp


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Nomination withdrawn. There was no clear consensus to merge vice keep. Of course, merging is a normal editing decision, and there is no reason that those discussions can't continue on the talk page. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  12:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Raymond W. Copp

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Insufficent coverage to satisfy the biographical or general notability guidelines, only coverage in a reliable source is this mention in The Morning Call. Google and Google News searches little more, and a Factiva search returns nothing. -- Lear's Fool 12:58, 22 December 2010 (UTC) Nomination withdrawn 02:37, 8 January 2011 (UTC).  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 03:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
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 * Keep as he is a bishop. the article has sources. It may be a stub, but bishops, by wikipedia's standards, are notable. --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 17:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep -- I have no idea how large the Anglo-Lutheran Catholic Church is but the number of clergy (all apparently archbishops) listed in that article suggests that ti is not trivial. Unlike certain other recent "bishop" AFDs, this does not appear to be a case of some one who may have been consecrated as a bishop becasue he asked some one to do so.  Peterkingiron (talk) 20:06, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. The article has only 1 source, a page with his contact details, a picture, and nothing more. If more coverage were to turn up, I would reconsider my nomination, but at the moment this article is not even verifiable, a standard that is substantially lower than notability.  There are also two other issues to consider: firstly, there is no guideline that indicates any sort of intrinsic notability for bishops (in fact, I once brought this up at the notability noticeboard).  Clergy must meet either the general or biographical notability guidelines, the core of which is significant coverage in reliable sources.  Finally, this article is a biography of a living person, and cannot be allowed to stay here without any of its content supported by references.  -- Lear's Fool 00:02, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to parent church There seems to be little that can be said here other than would be found in a directory. Mangoe (talk) 22:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Weak Merge with the parent church. Instinct was to keep, but I've looked for notability, but I can't find any outside the fact that he's a bishop in what seems like a minor church.  If proved wrong we can always resurrect the article. JASpencer (talk) 19:52, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge as per Mangoe and JASpencer. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 22:14, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have withdrawn the nomination, primarily due to the improvements made to the article by JASpencer. The decision as to whether this will end as a merge or keep is up to the closing administrator.  Note that I have a mild preference for a merger.  -- Lear's Fool 02:37, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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