Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raymonde Allain


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The result was keep. RL0919 (talk) 04:55, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Raymonde Allain

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I don’t see nor could I find anything that meets GNG or NBIO. No significant coverage, reliable sources, etc. Trillfendi (talk) 04:51, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep The first hit of a Google Books search (which should be part of any WP:BEFORE) finds an academic source with multiple pages discussing Allain, including the extensive and unusual press coverage she received at the time, with additional citations to sources for followup (The Force of Beauty: Transforming French Ideas of Femininity in the Third Republic ). Bakazaka (talk) 05:08, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 05:17, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I included Google Books in my Before because of her time period but saw nothing beyond mere mention.Trillfendi (talk) 05:34, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * In addition to her almost certainly passing WP:GNG based on contemporary coverage of her activities, if any of those passing mentions you saw verify that she "had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions", for example the three notable films listed in the article, or the additional lead role she played in the film described in the source that is already in the article, then she also passes WP:NACTOR. (Spoiler alert: she does). Bakazaka (talk) 06:03, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Well we must have different views on significant roles.Trillfendi (talk) 06:11, 8 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep There was plenty of significant coverage at the time of the beauty pageants (even in Australia!), as shown by a search of Newspapers.com (and that doesn't include French papers, which no doubt covered her too). The newspaper articles (eg, , , , , , , , include more information than is in the article, so it could certainly be expanded. There was more coverage when she had finished drama school and got roles in stage plays and films. She was also included in a 1998 book called Beauty queens : a playful history (I found a review, here  which talks about Allain - on Google books there is no preview, though). Definitely meets WP:GNG. RebeccaGreen (talk) 09:11, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Even a quick scan of search engine results show up a number of sources on the subject. There is certainly a lot more that can be expanded on this topic Playlet (talk) 09:57, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - The current content and the sources found by RebeccaGreen certainly indicate more evidence of encyclopedic nature of the subject. Smmurphy(Talk) 22:04, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


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