Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rayron Gracie


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The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 23:12, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Rayron Gracie

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Has not medalled at black belt level at an elite international competition yet. WP:TOOSOON and Notability is not inherited. Note: I'm creating this page for nominator Wafflesvarog. Nswix (talk) 20:27, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Martial arts, and Brazil. Nswix (talk) 20:27, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. Skynxnex (talk) 20:32, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * DELETE wait until black belt. Lewolka (talk) 08:04, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete As per Nominator. Does not currently pass WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. Lethweimaster (talk) 08:06, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: The article fails WP:NATHLETE. Members of the Gracie family often have articles created WP:TOOSOON and they end up deleted because, as the nominator mentioned, notability is not inherited. This is another case where the person would have an article created if their last name was different. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:36, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes we should also be careful not to systematically suspect a member of the Gracie family of “inherited notability”. In this case the article fails because he’s at brown belt but he’s still a 4 x world champion and currently #1 ranked brown belt by the IBJJF. Lewolka (talk) 18:32, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm not seeing significant independent coverage of him in reliable sources. He hasn't competed at the highest level of his sport, which is standard for sports notability and specifically required by the martial arts criteria mentioned at WP:MANOTE.  He may become notable later, but that requires a WP:CRYSTALBALL and indicates that, at a minimum, it's WP:TOOSOON. Papaursa (talk) 23:37, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nowhere to redirect and pointless to draft. Suitskvarts (talk) 08:09, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above Karnataka (talk) 09:38, 18 June 2023 (UTC)


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