Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ReadyTalk


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. This is clearly where the consensus is in the discussion, though there seems to be some hope that the article could be improved and perhaps be ready for inclusion at a later date. For anyone, particularly Dskwiki, I would be happy to userfy this article after I delete it, which would allow it to be worked on outside of Wikipedia article space. There is no prejudice against recreation if a better sourced, less advertorial version of this article can be written in the future. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 00:18, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

ReadyTalk

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Promotion for non-notable company; article by company's marketing department. I have been unable to find any significant third-party coverage, only press releases. Haakon (talk) 20:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Haakon (talk) 21:18, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedily Delete: per - unremarkable as well. -petiatil &raquo;user&raquo;speak 04:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedily Delete: per - unremarkable as well. -petiatil &raquo;user&raquo;speak 04:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

"ReadyTalk is a "notable company" and here are a few reasons: 1. 10 years in business and $20M/year in 2009 revenue 2. Survived the Dotcom bust and bootstrapped the business in difficult economic times 3. One of the fastest growing technology companies (both in Colorado and US - cited by Deloitte) 4. One of the best companies to work for (last 3 years top 3 in small business category - cited by jobbing.com) 5. Dan and Scott recognized by Ernst and Young for Entrepreneurship (winner in Rocky Mountain Region, finalist at National level)" Posted by Dskwiki
 * Copied from talk page by Peridon (talk) 20:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * This is fine, but it is not clear that the subject passes WP:GNG. By the way, am I right to assume that you are Dan King? Haakon (talk) 21:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Errr, no I'm not. I'm Peridon. I just copied this over for fairness. (I also put hangon tags on for people whose articles I've SD tagged if they can't get them in the right place.) dskwiki might well be Dan King. Peridon (talk) 21:10, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my reply was intended at Dskwiki :-) Haakon (talk) 21:16, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Not Dan, but closely related :) I will provide additional references for the GNG requirement tomorrow.  The article needs some work.  Do you have an example of a well written corporate page that follows the wikipedia guidelines?  (Dskwiki (talk) 03:53, 9 February 2010 (UTC))


 * ReadyTalk has received significant media attention during the past five years as well as been the recipient of numerous awards, which should deem the company ‘notable’ according to Wikipedia’s GNG. Media coverage includes articles in the following publications:

The Denver Business Journal
 * ReadyTalk develops niche in Web-conferencing world:http://denver.bizjournals.com/denver/stories/2007/04/30/story9.html
 * ReadyTalk bumps up hiring plans: http://denver.bizjournals.com/denver/stories/2009/02/16/story3.html
 * ‘Agile’ Rally doubles up on revenue, staff, clients: http://denver.bizjournals.com/denver/stories/2009/02/02/story2.html
 * ReadyTalk cultivates revenue in rocky 2009: http://denver.bizjournals.com/denver/stories/2010/02/08/focus6.html

InfoWorld
 * The new tech interviews: http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-management/new-tech-interviews-811

KUSA/9News
 * Ritter targets tax exemptions to fill budget gap: http://www.9news.com/rss/article.aspx?storyid=131539

CBS4
 * Denver Business Journal On Videoconferencing Company: http://cbs4denver.com/video/?id=53184@kcnc.dayport.com

FOX Business
 * ReadyTalk Launches Platinum Web Event, a Cost-Effective Technology and Professional Services Package for High Profile Web Events: http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/readytalk-launches-platinum-web-event-cost-effective-technology-professional/

Industry publication Webinar Success
 * ReadyTalk upgrades web conferencing: http://wsuccess.typepad.com/webinarblog/2009/10/readytalk-upgrades-web-conferencing.html
 * ReadyTalk adds event management: http://wsuccess.typepad.com/webinarblog/2008/04/readytalk-adds.html

In addition to some of the media coverage mentioned above, ReadyTalk has received the following awards:
 * - Deloitte Fast 500 as one of the fastest growing technology companies, 2007, 2008 & 2009 (http://www.alphatecspine.com/PDFs/Fast500List_1113082.pdf, http:/www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-UnitedStates/Local%20Assets/Documents/TMT_us_tmt/us_tmt_Fast500winnersbyrank_101509.pdf)
 * - Best small/medium sized company to work for in Colorado, 2007, 2008 & 2009 (http://denver.jobing.com/blog_post.asp?post=5709, http://www.cobizmag.com/articles/best-companies-to-work-for-in-colorado-2008/, http://www.cobizmag.com/articles/best-companies-to-work-for-in-colorado-09/page-9/)
 * - Founders, Dan King and Scott King, received the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year 2008 Award in the Software Services category for the Rocky Mountain Region (http://www.ey.com/US/en/Newsroom/News-releases/Media-Release-20-06-08ADC)
 * - Colorado Technology Association Apex Awards nominee 2009 (http://coloradotechnology.org/Events/Apex-Awards.aspx)
 * - Colorado Biz Magazine Top Company finalist 2009 (http://www.cobizmag.com/articles/2008-top-company-finalists/)
 * - Fastest-Growing Denver-Area Private Companies, Denver Business Journal 2009
 * - CSIA DEMOgala Showcase Company People’s Choice Award Winner (2009)

While I’m sure all companies believe that their company is notable, I think ReadyTalk meets Wikipedia’s requirements for notability as we’ve received significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. As an employee of ReadyTalk, I recognize that there are also concerns about our current entry's neutral point of view. If you agree that we meet the notability requirements, we will take immediate steps to correct the entry with contributions from reliable and independent sources. I look forward to your comments. (Dskwiki (talk) 02:09, 11 February 2010 (UTC))
 * Delete I've given it a bit, but it doesn't look notable to me yet. The refs look a bit on the 'press release' or 'taken from company handout' style to me, rather than independent coverage. I do like the style of the company, and wish them luck. As to altering the article after we decide it notable, that's cart and horse. Put the refs in and adopt NPOV and you're more likely to get a keep. No rain checks here.... Peridon (talk) 19:09, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete I've also watched this article for some time and it still appears to be a promotional item written by an insider, not a neutral and unbiased editor. Notability comes with time or exceptional coverage, neither of which has been achieved.  It would also be best written by someone from the outside that does not have a vested interest in the content.  IMHO.  Calltech (talk) 14:21, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Needs Peer Review Again with full disclosure, I am a ReadyTalk employee, and as such have better insight into the company, but do not come from an unbiased point of view. While I think ReadyTalk has passed the Wikipedia Notability Guidelines (here is another example from today’s edition of the Denver Post: http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_14388065), I don’t think the article is well written or from enough independent sources.  Without waging a PR campaign to introduce new and independent editors to the article, which I don’t think is in the interest of Wikipedia, I can see why Wikipedians would want to take the article down.  At this point, I am not convinced that it is in the best interest of ReadyTalk to have the article posted without strong peer review or reliable sources of independent content and varying points of view. (Dskwiki (talk) 16:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC))


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