Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Realms of Odoric


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The two "keep" opinions do not address the reasons for deletion advanced in the discussion, i.e, not meeting WP:N.  Sandstein  19:53, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Realms of Odoric

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No claim of notability made. Would have sent to CSD but no category for stuff like this. KDS4444 (talk) 13:17, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. This article needs a lot of improvement, but that's no reason to delete it. All the band's other albums have articles and there doesn't seem any particular reason why this one alone should be deleted. Neiltonks (talk) 14:12, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:38, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: a need for improvement isn't the reason for the AfD nomination,, it's a lack of sources. And there is a good chance some of the other albums will be put up for AfD as well at some point, because they also lack reliable sources. Richard3120 (talk) 19:30, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, see WP:OTHERSTUFF.  KDS4444 (talk) 03:14, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: What, exactly, in this case constitutes "lack of sources"? Is there not enough evidence that such an album exists? It is mentioned on the band's official website. What additional evidence is required?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.237.164.50 (talk) 22:01, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Just because something exists doe not mean that is it notable. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 23:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:03, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is my first contribution to wikipedia. I found myself listening to this band and I really liked it. Checking it out on wiki I realised the song list was missing, so I thought to add it. I used as reference a famous band like Slayer to format the Track list . I will gladly add the other albums as well. Hopefully someone else will "enrich" these pages as well with details about the different albums. - Let me know if I made some mistake or improvements are needed. Nick.realdini (talk) 14:32, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * None of that is a reason to keep the article. Notability is not inherited from the band. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 19:25, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * And the information wasn't missing, it was apparently not notable— those are different things, and Wikipedia isn't interested so much in the former because that is a personal judgement call while the latter is established through the existence of substantive coverage in reliable independent sources, which this article seems to lack. KDS4444 (talk) 19:56, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Lacks significant coverage in reliable sources - fails WP:GNG/WP:NALBUM. I was able to find a powermetal.de review, but one review is not enough to establish notability. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 19:31, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: I am not too sure of what you are talking about. If you had the time to investigate the lack of significant coverage, why didn't you add the coverage. I found plenty of articles talking about Suidakra and Realms of Odoric. In time I will add the details, but I am not sure I would want to contribute to wiki as I wasn't expecting this kind of attitude towards content. This content is correct in its form and it is a backbone on which other content can grow. If you start pruning this then good luck. I have to be honest that I financially contributed to wiki for years. This starts to make me question the system on which you do reviews. Please spend your time more "constructively" not "destructively". - This is the opinion of an absolute wiki noob. Nick.realdini (talk) 13:21, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.