Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rebeca Omordia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Michig (talk) 09:01, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Rebeca Omordia

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

Nothing indicates this individual might pass WP:NMUSIC. This is not in-depth coverage; this is not independent; and the word "fledgling" in this says it all. Maybe in the future, but not now. - Biruitorul Talk 16:15, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:01, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:01, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

I disagree with much of this. The Birmingham Conservatoire link IS independent - a perfectly reasonable and informative piece on a forthcoming performance which lists several more prizes won by Omordia which are not listed on the Wikipedia page. The criticism of the review link is unjustified because Omordia has achieved much since that review. For example the Delius prize which she won back in 2009 is a nationwide UK competition which attracts a considerable number of entrants. It might also be noted that Omordia is one of the few living classical musicians with African heritage to be included on Wikipedia's pages. Another reason to keep this profile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GHOUSE68 (talk • contribs) 09:36, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * A venue where an artist will be performing will have a natural interest in promoting that artist, and cannot really be considered an unbiased source of information.
 * If the Delius Prize is indeed significant under WP:MUSICBIO point 9, an article on that competition should be written, explaining how it's notable.
 * Wikipedia reflects reality. If, say, 3% of notable living classical musicians are of African heritage, then approximately 3% of our articles on notable living classical musicians will be on ones with African heritage. We don't artificially inflate that number to serve an agenda. Of course, we shouldn't deflate it either, but I don't think we'd be doing that by deleting this biography. The subject seems to be on the upswing, and will probably be more clearly notable in a few years. - Biruitorul Talk 15:52, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually I think you will find that less than 1% of living classical musicians listed on Wikipedia have African Heritage GHOUSE68 (talk) 09:51, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know the percentage on Wikipedia, and I don't know the percentage of living notable classical musicians in the real world who have African heritage. I have no reason to dispute what you say, and I used 3% as an example. The point is, our goal should be having articles on notable classical musicians regardless of race, not having articles on classical musicians of questionable notability in part because of their race. - Biruitorul Talk 17:27, 1 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - Aside from the local coverage in the Birmingham Post, can find no toehr significant coverage. -- Whpq (talk) 17:29, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 01:32, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KTC (talk) 01:10, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete, unfortunately Omordia is only at the start of her music career and the Wikipedia article may be WP:TOOSOON. As a current performer with a less common name, I'd expect to find more coverage about her if she had made a major impact. I can't. Sionk (talk) 02:36, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - having done my own search, I find myself in agreement with Sionk. Also agree, WP:TOOSOON. Stalwart 111  10:53, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, I agree that this page appears to be WP:TOOSOON. The references listed for the artist's achievements are weak and are not high quality secondary sources per WP policy, but rather event and programme listings.  I might even venture to say WP:NPF. Laurenlinn (talk) 15:49, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. — Ed! (talk) 04:10, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Incubate or Userfy Some recognition originated in Eastern Europe so there may be reliable independent sources to establish notabilityu available in languages other than English. Allow this article to incubate for a few months to see if sources can be located or if reviews of upcoming performances generate notability per WP:MUSICBIO.  GHOUSE68, please let me know if this article is sent to your sandbox so I can watch for and add sources to establish notability. DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 03:06, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.