Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rebecca Garfein


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The result was   nomination withdrawn. Almost said "keep" but not quite enough participation for a BLP AFD. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:38, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Rebecca Garfein

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Does not meet WP:BIO or WP:MUSIC, lacks significant 3rd party coverage in reliable sources. Only claim of notability is as first female cantor in a German synagogue. RadioFan (talk) 01:23, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep She has two albums on Bari Productions, Inc. I have no idea of the size of the company, but given the specificity of the genre, it's arguably a significant label, and ought to satisfy WP:MUS criterion 5:


 * Sacred Chants of the Contemporary Synagogue


 * Golden Chants in America...Commemorating 350 Years of Jewish Music


 * I'd also argue that she satisfies criterion 7 of WP:MUS. There are also sufficient sources to satisfy WP:GNG, in my opinion. A brief search on Google gives these:








 * Catfish Jim  &#38; the soapdish  09:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


 * withdrawn Thanks for finding those sources. WP:MUSIC criteria 5 does allow for and artist's notability to be demonstrated through releases on an "important" independent label.   Normally this is achieved through a "roster of notable artists" and a multi year history but I'm having trouble finding much info on this label to back that up.  There is no wikipedia article on the company and looking at the company website, those 2 compilation albums appears to be the only products produced under this label name.  I saw some of those other references as well but was unclear whether many of them met WP:RS but the PBS interview is sufficient to meet  WP:GNG and WP:BIO so I'll withdraw the nomination with the assumption that the good faith attempt to demonstrate notability here will be followed up by improvement of the article.  The article needs a bit of work.  For example, any article that starts out "is a notable" is a red flag for a subject that often isn't notable.--RadioFan (talk) 11:49, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


 * You may be being premature by withdrawing your AfD nomination... I suggest letting it run a bit to assertain what the consensus is on her notability.
 * I don't necessarily see the label as significant, and the suggestion that she may satisfy criterion 5 of WP:MUS is, as I said, arguable but it is more difficult to judge when faced with minority genres. These albums aren't compilations, by the way.
 * With regards to criterion 7 of WP:MUS, again difficult to judge. What I will say is that the first album I listed is number 51 on the Amazon International Folk bestsellers list, and appears to be the highest ranking example of Jewish Sacred music on that list. She's no Lady Gaga in terms of sales, but she does appear to have a following (which I suppose we ought not to find surprising, given she's played Carnegie Hall) Catfish Jim   &#38; the soapdish  12:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. Here's an article and a mention in German 1 2 and here are two links around the interview (it was broken above) 1 2 - frankieMR (talk) 23:32, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
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