Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reckoning of Hell


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Devil (Dungeons & Dragons). Although several people say this plot element is significant for the fiction, other commentators have pointed out the lack of significant real-world coverage. There seems to be consensus though that some material could or should be retained in e.g. Devil (Dungeons & Dragons). I therefore close this discussion as merge (i.e. not keep this as a stand-alone article). THe ultimate merge target may be discussed elsewhere. – sgeureka t•c 10:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Reckoning of Hell

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This article was previously nominated for deletion in a mass group nomination here, but the discussion was muddled with so many varying articles. The closing administrator suggested that the articles should be nominated individually, which is what I am doing now. A search for reliable, secondary sources reveals an insufficient amount of significant coverage. This article fails Wikipedia's notability guidelines for elements of fiction. Neelix (talk) 20:56, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 21:40, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 21:40, 29 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep, as a significant plot point in the in-game history of D&D. However, as all of Neelix's renominations of the articles from the original AFD have thus far resulted in a merge, I will propose that, as an alternative to deletion, the article can be merged into Devil (Dungeons & Dragons) instead. BOZ (talk) 03:59, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per BOZ. Polisher of Cobwebs (talk) 21:12, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as nominator - Significance within a fictional universe is not an indicator of notability according to Wikipedia's standards. On Wikipedia, notability is based on real-world significance as demonstrated by reliable, secondary sources, and there are no such sources for the Reckoning of Hell. Neelix (talk) 21:20, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete' - There is no evidence that this ficitonal element of D&D has received significant independent coverage to establish notability. simply stating something is a significant plot point without sources is not sufficient for keeping an article. -- Whpq (talk) 16:29, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge to Devil (Dungeons & Dragons). A hight significance in D&D, but not enough RS to justify a separate article from it. Cavarrone (talk) 22:17, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CharlieEchoTango  ( contact ) 05:49, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. There is a lot of stuff out there within the D&D universe, and most of it isn't encyclopedic.  There are other fictional universes that have vaguely similar ideas, and all of that seems to be just fodder for confusion with actual theology rather than adding things here.Tyrenon (talk) 22:12, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge, per Boz.--Robbstrd (talk) 19:56, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.