Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Recognize (song)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) &mdash; Music1201  talk  00:43, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Recognize (song)

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The only sources for this record are directories. There is no indication of notability, other that by inheritance (which, of course, is fallacious). Guy (Help!) 12:04, 4 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - I was only able to find this short article. No indication of notability.  Magnolia677 (talk) 12:42, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk &bull;&#32;mail) 14:59, 4 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep - The song charted and went Gold. JustDoItFettyg (talk) 15:23, 4 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep or redirect to album - multiple Billboard chart placings. WP:BEFORE for these sort of things involves searching on "[thing] site:billboard.com", where I found: Hot R&B Songs #14, 17 January 2015, R&B/HipHop Airplay #34, 10 January 2015, Hot R&B/HipHop Songs #47, 17 January 2015. This establishes that the record is prima facie notable in its own right. Obviously we need other sources, so if we can't find those then redirect to the (chart hit) album, PartyNextDoor Two - David Gerard (talk) 15:26, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the album is fine by me, the chart positions seem to me not to qualify as these are not the main charts. There are so many subgenre and "up and coming" charts now that virtually everything will get a placing somewhere. Guy (Help!) 15:51, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: Guy, since the guides on notability in music were written (which I imagine were more than a decade ago), the music industry has changed so much, and I'm not sure the Wikipedia notability criteria have kept up with those changes. The move from physical sales to digital downloads and now charts which are dominated by streaming means the goalposts have moved: getting a gold disc in the US and other countries used to be a proper feat... now as we can see it can be achieved without your single even reaching the Billboard Hot 100. This has had the effect of making pretty much every single notable, because they normally chart on one of the multitude of different charts and/or reach a minimum of a gold certification. Richard3120 (talk) 20:35, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Minor national charts are explicitly noted as evidence towards notability in WP:NMUSIC. (I really really want a good source on past DAC entries so I can rev up the industrial music coverage ...) I do concur that Billboard's selection can get a little silly at times (other countries don't seem to do this nearly as much), but then it does cover a market of a third of a billion people - David Gerard (talk) 00:15, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Agreeing with JustDoItFettyg and David Gerard, but I prefer to keep the article itself. Xboxmanwar (talk) 02:32, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. The song is charted on Billboard which makes it notable enough. - Rizhopper (talk) 15:56, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - sufficient coverage exists to satisfy WP:NSONGS. I have added references from which, among other sources, info on the song and its video can be used to expand the article.  Gongshow    talk  21:57, 6 September 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.