Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Recreate Greece


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) → B  music  ian  01:35, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Recreate Greece

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Declined Prod. Prod Reason was "Minor political party that does not demonstrate any particular notability, newly founded, and without any representation in national legislature." and had been Prod2ed by 2 additional editors. Prod decliner edit summary was "Added 5 third-party references. General elections in Greece remain a hot issue with new developments expected until end of June." Only got ~2.15% of the votes in the recent election(They had the 11th overall total and almost 90% less than the top vote getter). Wikipedia is not a promotional venue, so this party does not appear to yet qualify Hasteur (talk) 20:50, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as one of the Prod2 seconding editors. The additional sources added by the PROD decliner do indeed add more verifiability to the article topic, but this party has participated in one national election, won no seats, and apparently has gotten no persistent coverage of it specifically, besides routine mentions in articles about the voting. Admittedly, I don't read Greek, so I can't evaluate the Greek sources. But it seems to me that it fails the general notability guideline and any claims based on new developments in the future are crystal ball reading. I will also note that I have no prejudice to recreation if/when there is another election and if/when this party wins so much as a single seat in the national legislature. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 22:07, 16 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - by the wonders of Google translate it is not difficult to see the new party has been written about significantly in Greece. That, together with the inclusion in the UK and German news which shows it has been very widely noticed, makes me confident Recreate Greece is notable enough. Sionk (talk) 23:40, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Given the current political and electoral situation we should hasten slowly on this. But I agree with Sionk that the indications are that the party has already passed the notability bar, which is generally (and rightly) set fairly low for political parties anyway. Even if the party were to disappear in the next few weeks through merger with one of the other players, it has already made a mark simply by being there and expressing a point of view. --AJHingston (talk) 00:01, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep A party that gets 2% of the votes in a national election is notable. There are Wiki articles for US political parties that get less than 1% of the vote, and have no elected representatives. NJ Wine (talk) 01:05, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 12:10, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 12:10, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep, as notable as many other small political party articles. I see no reason to delete. — Nightstallion 13:51, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, Party has fair amount of press notice. Yes it could merge with another party or be eclipsed in the upcoming election, but may as well wait until either happens before deleting.WashingtonMatia (talk) 01:38, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, I am not aware of any threshold in votes for political party articles, and there are many articles on parties that have only received a couple of hundreds of votes in their decades-long history. This one was one of the major surprises in the recent elections, was much talked about in Greece, and with over 2% did remarkably well for a new party with new people in Greece. Constantine  ✍  07:40, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Here's another reliable source in English indicating notability. --Ferengi (talk) 13:52, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, The party is widely heard around Greece and one could say that it might be gaining popularity. Dimboukas (talk) 22:12, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
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