Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Recurring squad members of the Mass Effect universe


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The result was   merge to Characters of the Mass Effect universe.  MBisanz  talk 23:58, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Recurring squad members of the Mass Effect universe

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Unencyclopedic in-universe essay. Despite the included references, this appears to be largely based on original research and personal opinion. Contested prod RadioFan (talk) 17:09, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment &mdash; The reason this article exists is because someone split it out from Characters of the Mass Effect universe which is itself a mess. I would suggest that both articles be slashed down and then reincorporated back into the Characters article. --Izno (talk) 17:16, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment wow, what a mess. A highly selective merge back into the main article on the game seems reasonable.  Let's see if we can gain consensus on that as an outcome here.--RadioFan (talk) 18:07, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge as per above. I don't think the answer to the issues at the Characters article was to fork, I think it should have been to trim and cut and clean. I think that cleanup should happen before we try to stuff another article back into the mess, but I do agree that it should be the end result, if and when. Can it get done in 7 days? Doubt it. But worth discussing. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 19:11, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment it doesn't have to happen in 7 days, if the outcome here is merge, a reasonable amount of time will be available to complete the merge.--RadioFan (talk) 04:27, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
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 *  Split or delete  - I split this article from Characters of the Mass Effect universe due to size. Perhaps these articles should be trimmed before they are merged. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge. This was not supposed to be split due to size, the main article should have been seriously trimmed instead. The AfD of Characters article was very indicativethe issues have to be dealt with in manner of trimming trivia and gamecruft. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 14:10, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Should be renamed to List of recurring characters in the Mass Effect universe. Some information might be trimmed, I don't know, haven't read through it all.  Shouldn't just be destroyed do to size reasons alone though.  Some of the characters might be notable enough to have their own articles, if someone finds enough references to prove that.  Major characters that appear throughout a significant series like this, deserve their own character list.   D r e a m Focus  10:02, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Which already exists at Characters of the Mass Effect universe. This page was split from that. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:36, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to Wikia Mass Effect or some other similar dedicated wiki (is there a standard procedure to do that?) and Keep as a stub per WP:STUBBING. There are reliable sources that should be kept per WP:PRESERVE, but most of the content should be trimmed down to the bare minimum that is referenced, and the rest moved to the wiki that accepts and welcomes this kind of content. Diego (talk) 17:17, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Characters of the Mass Effect universe. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:11, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * delete or EXTREMELY trimmed merge WP:GAMECRUFT. Also, highly likely to be crossing into Plot-only_description_of_fictional_works issues. Gaijin42 (talk) 00:15, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge and massive trim to Characters of Mass Effect, the latter of which should get a trim as well. It looks like the character list currently consists of a play-by-play of what each character did in the plot, which should not be the case. Rather, it should talk about them as characters (i.e. characteristics, etc.) and if there isn't enough to say about them without regurgitating their role in the plot, then remove that character entry outright. Axem Titanium (talk) 16:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect, per my initial comment. I will also echo Axem's recommendation. I might take it upon myself to take a first cut. --Izno (talk) 18:44, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
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