Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red Alert (album) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:34, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Red Alert (album)
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Fails WP:NALBUMS, lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. No indication of independent notability. duffbeerforme (talk) 06:51, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS PEANUTBUTTER &#9734;&#9733; 07:29, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep: Nothing new in this nom that wasn't covered in the previous AfD, which resulted in keep. --IllaZilla (talk) 08:50, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Three years later and still no references. WP:NALBUMS has changed. It's not just unsourced but no references have been found as the last afd said should happen. I looked and I didn't find any good ones. Did you look? duffbeerforme (talk) 12:31, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, NALBUMS hasn't changed in any substantial way. AfD is not a call for sources. Where did you look? The album's basic details can be verified here and via the liner notes. The album was reviewed in Maximumrocknroll, Skratch, SLAMM (now San Diego CityBeat), the San Diego Reader, and The Telescope, and it was nominated for "Best Punk/Ska Album" at the 1998 San Diego Music Awards. These are all print sources, though, and would be very difficult to track down in the timespan of an AfD. --IllaZilla (talk) 14:26, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you really believe that is not a substantial change? How about the previous three years for tracking them down? Sources look like local street press and zines. Award is not major. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:45, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The language has changed, but the substance hasn't. It still basically says "see WP:N". As for the length of time, WP:DEADLINE. The sources are perfectly reliable: Maximumrocknroll has a 30-year history of publication and circulation, CityBeat and the Reader are local but nonetheless reliable by WP standards. There is no requirement that an album have won or been nominated for a major award. --IllaZilla (talk) 09:39, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 15:12, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — TheSpecialUser  ( TSU ) 08:03, 15 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment – I added this source to the article: . Northamerica1000(talk) 23:46, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * And I've removed it, source = wikipedia. duffbeerforme (talk) 05:20, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
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