Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red Armenian army


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was No consensus. Newyorkbrad 22:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Red Armenian army

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Not notable enough, no reliable sources barely any information only bias sources if found based on research it should be deleted. Artaxiad 22:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator. Artaxiad 22:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment nominator is approved and banned sock master that was used counteless socks.Possibly there are some cocks in voters.This AfD is redundant. Must . T  C 12:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment Google hits Artaxiad 22:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete even if it was sourced, it hardly qualifies as notable.--Domitius 22:53, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep, it is a reality, has enough sources, need to development. Must . T  C 10:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That is your defense? if this is a "reality" good for it. It does NOT have enough sources. Artaxiad 10:28, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep - Listen, I don't know what is going on, but I think that you guys should give it a rest. As far as notability goes, the main criteria is the outside referrals to an organization/person/etc. It has its own file in the MIPT Database . I haven't done more research on it to be honest. Now, I don't want to get into an argument over how many attacks a group must have carried out in order to have a page in Wikipedia and what makes those "attacks" notable, but the article looks descent enough, is concise, has an outside referral from a reasonable non-partisan specialized source and doesn't violate any Wiki rules as far as I see (WTA, OR etc). Keeping it cool, what seems to be the problem with this article? (for a notability sidenote, check this out: Category:Communist parties of Turkey - there is even a "party" in there which I know for a fact is run by ten people from an office in a Paris suburb! :)) Baristarim 10:54, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Your going too far off topic. Artaxiad 10:57, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * True, my last comment (and this) was/is off topic.. I had been wanting to tell others what a WP:N violation that category is!! What is this for example? New Build-up organization? They surely must have been running out of ideas for a name, weren't they? Baristarim 11:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. Artaxiad 11:48, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Weak delete I don't believe it has enough sources to provide any reason that the article can grow/develop anymore than it already has. The group was responsible for one "attack", two decades ago. --Rayis 13:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, I tried expanding it. Artaxiad 23:02, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep the only feasible way to deal with political movements is to consider them notable if they have a name and a source. trying to judge importance will inevitably produce irreconcilable disputes. The discussion here is a good example of why that's the way to think about these. DGG 16:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep or Rename to Armenian Red Army, as it is how the group is referred to by MIPT. denizTC 16:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete per Rayis. Similar groups appear every once in a while to claim "an attack" in the Middle East and are not taken seriously or covered. There must be a dozen groups that have claimed a single attack in Iraq alone and not much coverage of those "1-hit wonders". - Fedayee 23:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Question What will happen to Kemalettin Demirer if this page is deleted? denizTC 23:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We request speedy deletion, per redirect to non-existence page. Artaxiad 23:25, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep - the event is widely recorded in many languages as part of the "armenian terrorism"    .  The proposal of this Afd is to remove this and the other article which mentioned the event "Kemalettin Demirer".  I believe this article should be kept until someone writes a new article about all of these related terrorist events; then both Red Armenian army and Kemalettin Demirer can redirect to it.  John Vandenberg 00:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Post-Armenian Genocide timeline; I have added an entry for this event on that timeline, as it provides more context, and less weight to this minor event. John Vandenberg 01:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Per Rayis. ROOB323 05:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Rayis -- Aivazovsky 12:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Has a source, seems notable. --A.Garnet 17:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't believe any of the nominator's arguments justify a deletion but only some rewriting.-- Doktor Gonzo 12:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Assassination of a diplomat should make it notable enough to be included in Wikipedia. If we have an article on Khachkars (which I totally support), we should well have an article on a terrorist organization. More references should be collected, but I can't see the problem with the current ones.--Scientia Potentia  16:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete Per nom and WP:NOTABILITY.--  Ευπάτωρ   Talk!! 18:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.