Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red Dog Squadron


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Seraphimblade Talk to me 01:46, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Red Dog Squadron

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This is a non-notable theater company. Sources make passing mentions to the company, but do not describe it in significant detail sufficient for WP:GNG. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:31, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Theatre and California. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:31, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment, right now I am a bit undecided but here is my analysis some of the citations:
 * Backstage (1) looks to only mention contact details. Starrymag (2) only mentions it in three paragraphs and has a link to their website at the bottom. Flavorpill (3) only mentions that it made Grand Delusion. Much the same story for Go Los Angeles (4) except they add a link to the bottom. Broadway World (5) covers more productions and where and when it was founded, however, it appears to more focus on individual people rather than the company. LA Stage Blog (6) covers the founding, co-producer, and Extinction. The insta page (14) is their own. With the amount that I covered only here, I almost cut down the citations in half. I might expand on this list later. ✶Mitch  199811  ✶  23:13, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: Fails to acquire WP:SIGCOV in any reliable third party source. UtherSRG (talk) 10:58, 12 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. This is the theater company of James Roday Rodriguez. He is the primary star of the highly successful show Psych which ran for 8 seasons on USA Network, and continues to produce movies to this day for Peacock (streaming service). He was also a writer and director for that series. In addition, he is a primary star for A Million Little Things which ran for 5 seasons on ABC. He had already obtained "offer only" status prior to being cast for his second successful show [3:30 in A Million Little Stories podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-inside-look-at-junior/id1510035491?i=1000521413998]. Additionally some critics have even panned AMLT the Gary show and he has earned much recognition for his performances. https://tvline.com/lists/james-roday-rodriguez-performance-a-million-little-things-final-season-5-premiere/  His writing for that show is currently nominated for a Hollywood Critics Association award. https://hollywoodcriticsassociation.com/hollywood-critics-association-announces-the-2023-hca-tv-award-nominations-for-broadcast-networks-cable/
 * So Rodriguez is highly notable in my view. Now that leads us to examine his theatre company for which he is co artistic director with Brad Raider. When the theatre was founded neither were notable so there is no articles to its founding. However, it gets proper recognition now when it makes big moves (like buys El Centro Theatre) which was covered in LA Times and Variety as citied in this Wikipedia article. Also its New York production on Extinction was reviewed in the NY Times. This quite a notable theatre when it makes shows probably because of Roday. I should add it is also mentioned a good bit on The Psychologists are In with Maggie Lawson and Tim Omundson https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-psychologists-are-in-with-maggie-lawson/id1593693216 due to its high prominence within the Psych community. This issue we are dealing with here is probably most succinctly put in this comedy TVLine production at 3:30 when Dule Hill mentions Roday's most prominent works are AMLT, Psych, and this theatre https://tvline.com/news/tube-talk-james-roday-episode-3-video-psych-sequel-interview-984115/. I would highly recommend keep. Itsdannyg (talk) 00:47, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The actor is notable, but the theater company doesn't inherit notability from him. Likewise with the El Centro Theatre. The Variety and LA Times references make merely passing mentions of Red Dog. Podcasts are just podcasts. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:26, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * You can disagree. But he is someone of high notability "offer-only" (i.e. doesn't have to audition to be on a TV show) that owns this theatre company. Shows want him because of who he is. Does that on its own make RDS notable? No. But put that in context with all the other facts makes it a relevant point to chew on. Also the podcast I mentioned is the creator of AMLT's podcast mentioning himself that Roday was offer-only. The podcasts here are official and not fan podcasts. Itsdannyg (talk) 02:31, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Variety-red-dog.png Further more, I disagree that a sub-title of the article in question is a passing mention. It is the subject of the article. Itsdannyg (talk) 02:39, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * LA Times clippings for Red Dog Squadron.
 * https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-los-angeles-times/128136785/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-los-angeles-times/128136835/ Itsdannyg (talk) 08:44, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:36, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect to James Roday Rodriguez. I can find mentions of RedDog but only in articles mainly about Rodriguez or specific productions. The company itself may or may not achieve notability, but until there are substantial sources about the company itself it doesn't meet the Wikipedia notability rules. If there is info here that isn't in the Rodriquez article it can be added there. If so, that could constitute a new section in the Rodriquez article and could give suitable weight to the company. Lamona (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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