Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red Pepper (magazine)


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The result was Nomination withdrawn (non-admin closure) —Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesBWatson (talk • contribs) 15:07, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Red Pepper (magazine)

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Nomination withdrawn: see comment below. Delete No evidence of notability. The article gives no references to independent sources, and I can find none. A prod was removed with edit summary including "Removed prod, a google news archive search shows clear notability". However, it is not clear what one has to search for to confirm this. I have tried many search terms, including "Red pepper" and "Red pepper magazine" and "Red pepper" magazine and "Red Pepper" "Socialist Movement" and "Red Pepper" "Hilary Wainwright" etc etc. Out of all these searches on Google News I found a total of one reference to this magazine; this was a blog post referring to a planned meeting, with a list of 16 planned speakers, including Hilary Wainwright (Red Pepper), and that was the only mention of the magazine. A plain Google web search produces the magazine's own site, www.magazinesubscription.co.uk, this Wikipedia article, blogs, twitter, etc etc but no significant independent coverage. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:59, 4 November 2009 (UTC) Surely a full colour, 68-page magazine published every other month (Available online here for anyone to check the veracity of this) passes a notability test! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.138.218.99 (talk) 18:59, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Do not delete this article I have now added references and links, including an interview with the editor about the magazine on the website of UK daily The Guardian. Found it via google - not sure why JamesBWatson, above, was not able to find this. Magazine is well known in the UK left. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.138.218.99 (talk) 18:46, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Striking through duplicate "Keep"
 * Keep Red Pepper is a national magazine with a wide distribution, a simple google search will product many results. Try a blog or web search for something like ([red pepper antifacism http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=red+pepper+magazine+antifascism&btnG=Search&aq=]) and you will see this very notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.221.163 (talk) 20:28, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, with all due respect to the nominator, I had little trouble finding press references to this publication (which I've never heard of before, sounds like something Billy Bragg would read), and added about 4 references to The Independent to the article, including information on circulation. While not a huge publication, its notability seems clear.--Milowent (talk) 21:46, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I'm a subscriber and unless I'm delusional I see to get the magazine every two months and a damn good read it is too —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.221.163 (talk) 22:06, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep nominator clearly didn't look too hard, . RMHED (talk) 22:58, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Re. No evidence of notability? In which case you mean Harold Pinter, Tony Benn, Noam Chomsky and Naomi Klein clearly don't write for notable magazines. Except you'll be wrong because they have all contributed to the only bastion of independent media left in the UK.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.198.167.118 (talk) 23:14, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep There are a huge amount of independent reference sources to this magazine, I really don't understand why this article is even considered for deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.195.198.183 (talk) 07:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Withdraw Well, we have four IP editors nobly trying to defend the magazine they love, but with arguments which mostly do not relate to Wikipedia policy or guidelines. (eg "a full colour, 68-page magazine published every other month", "I see to get the magazine every two months and a damn good read it is too", "No evidence of notability? In which case you mean Harold Pinter, Tony Benn, Noam Chomsky and Naomi Klein clearly don't write for notable magazines" (notability is not inherited). However, Milowent has provided references to sources which at a glance look good, and also nobody else is supporting deletion, so I am willing to withdraw. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:55, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.