Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red and Black Cafe


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The result was   keep. The Bushranger One ping only 04:49, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Red and Black Cafe

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It seems like this company is notable for only one event, kicking a cop out. While WP:BLP1E is policy, we don't have an analogous policy for WP:CORP1E, but the same principle applies.

And, yes, I am the man oppressing the masses. Toddst1 (talk) 04:33, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - You do note that BLP-1E relates to BLP's, not to business entities. I suppose this becomes a (somewhat ironic) case of an IAR nomination vs. a source-counting defense... Which I shall do: this company is the subject of multiple, independent, substantial pieces of coverage in reliable sources and therefore passes GNG. There is no policy-based "One Event" basis for a business challenge such as this... Carrite (talk) 05:23, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * But would the articles on this really be considered extensive coverage? I see a few very brief articles about the event (along with a video and two longer articles) as well as a primary link and a link to a notice that the place is unionized. I don't know that this counts as in-depth and extensive coverage, to be honest. I'll see what I can find, but this is sort of bare bones here. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 05:30, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * These 2 articles are later and about something else:
 * http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2011/01/27/red-and-black-cafe-aims-for-takeover
 * http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-26312-red_and_black_cafe_aims_to_buy_a_building%E2%80%94.html "...with the Red and Black’s anarchist reputation..."


 * There's also this: General piece about the unique management structure at the Red & Black http://kboo.fm/node/33058 Interview about the monthly Music For the Working Class event held at the Red & Black. http://kboo.fm/node/32836 Jlanglang (talk) 07:23, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:10, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:11, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:11, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Reliable references are reliable references. As Carrite pointed out, BLP1E does not apply to cafes or other things that aren't living people. Personal opinion about the importance of a place or events related to it do not trump a preponderance of sources. That's what WP:V is all about. Steven Walling &bull; talk   21:49, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. WP:CORP1E is not a Wikipedia policy or guideline. There's significant coverage in multiple sources independent of the subject, so this passes WP:GNG. Gobōnobo  + c 07:56, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Unlike most food and drink articles up for deletion, this article reveals a greater issue involving a collectively owned business that revolves an issue utilizing their voice of free speech and collective agreements. Considering the decision was weighted very greatly towards a radical opinion, the article is written in a neutral tone, compiling with the language/opinion requirement.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.149.65.45 (talk) 18:29, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable restaurant/cafe in a busy Portland area has several Google News hits, along with the sources given which are sufficient to meet notability guidelines. Tinton5 (talk) 22:39, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
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