Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red and Blue (EP)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge and redirect. Jayjg (talk) 00:42, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Red and Blue (EP)

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This is an EP by Stefani Germanotta, recorded a couple years before she found fame (pardon the pun) as Lady Gaga. The EP was apparently not released—the article claims a "handful of copies were sold at New York area shows"—and the only mentions I'm seeing for this are in fansites/forums, torrent links, etc. I can not find significant coverage in independent reliable sources; does not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:NALBUMS.  Gongshow  Talk 02:35, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —  Gongshow  Talk 02:37, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator's reasoning. --TrustMeTHROW! 03:26, 31 January 2010 (UTC) User has been blocked, refer to Sockpuppet_investigations/Trusted_Throw for details.
 * Merge and redirect to Lady Gaga discography, surely someone looking at the discography would find interest in this. J04n(talk page) 20:57, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * note: I merged info already feeling that it is relevant no matter how this discussion goes. If no kept, I believe the redirect is appropriate. J04n(talk page) 21:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


 * In that case, redirect. Sorafune   +1  22:44, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect - there is some historical interest, making J04n's merge a good idea. Now that it's done, redirect to the discography article. D OOMSDAYER 520  (Talk|Contribs) 23:05, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect not notable enough for it's own article (plus, not enough context to support it) Alan  -  talk  23:44, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. I don't know if anyone noted, but it's impossible to merge any kind of content in this article, since it's filled with original researches, backed up with one unreliable source (a fan forum). Said that, Redirect wouldn't be the right thing to do, because neither Lady Gaga or Lady Gaga discography (the most probably pages for redirect) presents nothing related to this EP. So the best thing to do would be just Delete.  Sparks   Fly  16:09, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I did merge the info to Lady Gaga discography and the info I added was deleted about 5 hours later, so I do agree with Sparks Fly, if there is no destination delete. J04n(talk page) 22:28, 5 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete and WP:SALT both this and Red and Blue (Lady Gaga EP). How many times will this crap be created and we have to go through Afd? There's absolutely nothing in the article that warranties inclusion anywhere in WP at all. I'm really getting irritated by all the fancruft going on in this artist's pages. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 04:33, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * We can't pick and chose what is important. A release by a notable artist usually always passes notability. It may not deserve a page, but it shouldn't be ignored altogether. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 16:30, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect as not notable to WP:NALBUMS. Salting would be a mistake as discussion would be difficult to find and result in article being created with different name all over again - exactly the thing salting is suppose to avoid but in practice has the reverse effect. SunCreator (talk) 14:34, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge - One sentence with WP:RS into discography. SunCreator (talk) 00:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge basic information into discography and biography. I don't care if people are removing it once you add it. Add it back and slap them with a warning. The fact that a singer had a previous release is no doubt notable. We don't need an in depth analysis, but a mention saying she released an EP before becoming popular is very much related to her career. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 16:30, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Stephen, this might have been mildly notable if some reliable source would have been found. However, adding a forum is definitely a no-no and hence the article too. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 04:07, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. One or two sentences about it would be ideal but with not one WP:RS anywhere to be found even that limited amount is not sensible. SunCreator (talk) 04:25, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Source the liner notes. It also seems to be for sale as a digital download on amazon. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 13:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, yeah, I have to admit you have a point, the liner is a WP:RS, do we know if anyone actually have a liner note? This EP is like golddust I would imagine! Anyway, I will amend my vote. SunCreator (talk) 00:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to Lady Gaga discography, this is an important part of her history that people should know about. SoCal L.A. (talk) 20:44, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Should be mentioned in the discography, certainly. Can reliable sources be found? I remember when a song of hers, Christmas Tree (Lady Gaga song), was nominated for AFD and it was in a terrible state; I found a load of sources and it's now a decent article. Will look for sources now. Until then I say keep album by notable artist. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 16:37, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
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