Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Redditch Borough Council election, 2018


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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 22:31, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Redditch Borough Council election, 2018

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No evidence of any notability. Local elections in the UK have very rarely  demonstrated notability and this is no exception. Fails WP:GNG  Velella  Velella Talk 10:51, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions.  We Are All  Here   talk  11:12, 9 April 2018 (UTC)


 * This article has been properly referenced, with sources cited. It follows a long history of wikipedia pages for Redditch Council elections. It should stay as it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digby2014 (talk • contribs) 11:53, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 12:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete all of the sources are primary, I don't think this would get enough secondary sources to show notability. There are also a lot of these types of articles by year. Possible merge candidate to the borough council? SportingFlyer  talk  05:03, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: Better merge candidate for these election pages: the council elections page, e.g. Redditch Borough Council elections. Election buffs - perhaps this isn't the right wiki for council data. Documenting these fast-changing data would be easier on a wiki with mw:Extension:Variables, with data based at Wikidata. FLYING CHRYSALIS  💬 17:45, 18 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment. I think there are a couple of points here that need to be considered. First the election is about to take place and thus the campaign is ongoing so more  information, and possibly evidence of notability, will become available. Second, and more importantly, it has now become common place for there to be article on every local election for District, County and Unitary Authorities in the UK. While I think the merits of this approach could be debated, I wonder if a more general discussion is needed on this rather than debating individual articles in a piecemeal fashion? Dunarc (talk) 10:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * There is already a discussion on this topic at Wikipedia talk:Notability  Velella  Velella Talk 11:41, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Dunarc (talk) 18:30, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 *  Userify  i.e. move back to a sandbox or draft space. It seems to be a holding space for a future article, certainly for a future event. Redditch is a very sizeable borough so one would expect coverage of the results and the immediate build up. I can't really see anything of that kind online at the moment. Though if this AfD drags on and is relisted, it may be superseded by events! In which case my 'vote' would probably change to 'Keep'. Sionk (talk) 18:36, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - this article was moved to Draft space by JamesBWatson on 7 April but it had been moved back to mainspace by its author by 9 April. With this history it is uncertain whether userfying it would serve much purpose.  Velella  Velella Talk  21:34, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, I'll go for Keep then. It's open to question whether so much detail is necessary in the article (i.e. list of all ward election results), but like the preceding articles of a similar nature, this sizeable borough will undoubtedly get coverage of its election by the time this Afd reaches it's conclusion. If the nominator wants to make a point, they should nominate an article about a similar election that has already taken place. Sionk (talk) 15:10, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
 * No, not making any point at all. The article appeared in the New Articles feed and all the logical tests and searches produced nothing to support a claim of notability. Hence the AfD.   Velella  Velella Talk  13:29, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete, not a notable topic, we just don't keep these articles, a few local refs will turn up as you'd expect of a local election. Szzuk (talk) 16:56, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to United_Kingdom_local_elections,_2018 per WP:CHEAP. It's clearly notable notable (this is just a small village), but could be useful as a link. Bearian (talk) 02:59, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
 * This election has not happened yet, and will not happen till the third of May. When it does happen, it is a virtual certainty that it will satisfy GNG. These elections generally do satisfy GNG (once they have happened). It is reasonable to presume, in the case of any particular election, that sufficient coverage will exist (once it has happened). We always keep these articles (once the election has happened). Deletion is simply out of the question because it would violate ATD, PRESERVE and R (go read WP:POKEMON and imagine a chronological list of the elections of this council). James500 (talk) 03:29, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Put it this way, there is already coverage from the BBC and New Statesman, in particular. Last year, and the year before, there was plenty of coverage from, in particular, newspapers such as the Redditch Standard, the Redditch Advertiser, the Birmingham Mail and so on. There will be sufficient coverage. There always is. James500 (talk) 03:53, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I actually strongly disagree with this. For instance, running a before search for the current placeholder [] brought up only primary sources. I'm sure there are news articles out there, but the coverage is basically trivial. WP:TOOSOON aside, I don't know why this election would be any different. SportingFlyer  talk  18:19, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep Long-established that district council elections in the UK are sufficiently notable for articles (via AfDs like this or this), hence why we have virtually full sets of articles for many years (see e.g. the contents of Category:English local elections, 2016) and articles on all the elections in Redditch going back to the mid-1990s (Category:Redditch Borough Council elections). Odd claim above that the district of Redditch (population 85,000) is a small village... Number   5  7  06:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep 150 councils are electing new councillors, and there are six mayoral contests. Redditch Borough Council is one of the 150 councils. The results will receive all night coverage by the BBC, ITV and Sky (see: 2018 local elections: How the BBC is reporting the results. This should really be a policy WP:PROPOSAL regarding the coverage of UK local elections, otherwise it would mean the deletion of masses of content. It is much too big a question for a single article AfD. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 07:49, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 15:18, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep There is some RS coverage and will be more. Arguments above from Number   5  and The Vintage Feminist also hold. Ralbegen (talk) 16:56, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per Number 57 and The Vintage Feminist.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 17:20, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per James500. Cavrdg (talk) 08:21, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


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