Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reformed English Church


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and redirect to English Reformation. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 04:30, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Reformed English Church

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The article has never had any text, only the boxes, and I have located no source with any information about a religious body of this name Noyster  (talk),  09:22, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 12:09, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 12:09, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 12:09, 23 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Redirect synonym to English Reformation. The Mighty Glen (talk) 12:10, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect to English Reformation as a plausible search term. Leaving aside the textless status of the article, the infobox attributes don't make a lot of sense. A group that separated from the Orthodox Presbyterian Church would not be Strict Baptist. I suspect this was essentially a infobox sandbox attempt, with some of the information retained from whichever church article it was copied from initially. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:15, 23 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment Wiping out an article which covers a whole denomination, per current infobox mention of 70 churches belonging to it, should not be done lightly, even though denominations can rise and fall pretty fast. This seems to be about church split off in America, not about the split in England, so redirect to English Reformation is not quite on.  Is there a different article about the Reformation happening in America, which was settled by Europeans already in 1600s?  There is Reformed and Presbyterian churches" article in Britannica.  Searching "Reformed English Church, Virginia" yields http://loyolanotredamelib.org/php/report05/articles/pdfs/Report38Joynerp15-34.pdf, from Loyola Notre Dame, which doesn't load for me but Google snippet shows it is about "The History of the Reformed Church in Virginia 1714-1940 ... entries after 1844 in English and not transcribed." But mention of 70 churches belonging to it seems to suggest it is about a current/recent denomination. --Doncram (talk) 15:27, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The thing is, I don't think there is a denomination as described in this infobox. The article you linked from the Loyola website is about Lutheran and Reformed churches, but in that context, those mean the ELCA and PC (USA), respectively (the latter has its seminary in Richmond). Both of these are much larger denominations than the infobox offers. Now, there are lots of other Presbyterian denominations, but not headquartered in Richmond, and not named "Reformed English"! Indeed, "English" is usually a keyword suggesting an Anglican church. There is a "Reformed Anglican Church", which is a reasonably large denomination (north of 100 parishes), with a parish in Richmond, but not headquartered there. We don't seem to have an article for that; note that it's not the same as what we have under the title Reformed Anglican Church, which I believe should actually be Reformation Anglican Church, and which miiight not be notable. Also, absolutely none of these churches are "Strict Baptist" as the infobox suggests (in either sense; they are not Baptists to begin with, and they do not hold closed communion). Bottom line, I'm pretty sure the denomination as described in the infobox doesn't exist at all. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:04, 23 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete then redirect to English Reformation. Google books search gives results which link the term to anglican and reformation figures, for instance: Francis Paget, John Jewel, and Thomas Cranmer. Smmurphy(Talk) 21:37, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I tweaked my !vote to Delete then redirect. The current article is not about what I think would be an appropriate destination and I think there is nothing to keep in the history. Smmurphy(Talk) 02:50, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete as a hoax - there never was a denomination of this description. StAnselm (talk) 04:00, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete -- The info box implies that this was a Baptist secession from the church in New England. I do not know if that happened, but if it did, I expect we have article on it under another name.   If it existed, some one can create an article; I agree the present name is improbable.  Peterkingiron (talk) 08:57, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as hoax. Srnec (talk) 02:44, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


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