Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reformed Old Apostolic Church


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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 06:58, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Reformed Old Apostolic Church

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This denomination has a grand total of one match on Google Scholar with the English name. And the only thing this source states about this denomination is: "Reformed Old Apostolic Church Belhar – established 1979: 166 members;", nothing more, nothing less; and this does not match the current information on the WP article that this denomination was created in 1972. A search with the Afrikaans name has zero matches.

I have not been able to find an official website for the denomination.

This denomination clearly does not meet WP:GNG and therefore it should be deleted. Veverve (talk) 19:59, 14 May 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:19, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Christianity,  and South Africa. Veverve (talk) 19:59, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have heard of this group, but will need to see if a couple Irvingite sources actually touch upon them. If I don't find anything or don't reply further, consider me moderately pro-deletion. ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:08, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Searches also need to be done under its former name, the Non-White Old Apostolic Church. It gets lots of hits in GBooks, but all the top ones are for the 1975 court case, Old Apostolic Church of Africa v Non-white Old Apostolic Church of Africa. StAnselm (talk) 06:21, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: The Apostolic History Network says it has 180,000 members. StAnselm (talk) 15:05, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep -- We have normally regarded denominations as notable. If true that it has 180,000 members, I would argue that lifts it into notability.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:57, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per Peterkingiron, but it is touch and go! There needs to be an ability to write something about the denomination, and despite the 180,000 members reported, there is a definite paucity of material. However, part of this is that this denomination gets called by another name. That is th "Non-White Old Apostolic Church of Africa" (as shown in the link provided by StAnselm). Under this name there are more sources, such as . I haven't yet found anything that would make for a useful history or background in the article, but there are sufficient sources like that one to verify it is an active denomination. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 15:08, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above. StAnselm (talk) 16:47, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.