Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Refuge du Nid d'Aigle


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. czar 22:48, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Refuge du Nid d'Aigle

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This mountain hut is not sufficiently notable for the article to be retained. It is at such a low altitude (2,372 m) within the very high Mont Blanc massif (4,808 m) as to not be of significance or use as a mountaineering refuge, nor is it noteworthy enought to be listed or described in any modern English standard alpine climbing guidebook as a climber's base. In some areas of the Alps, a mountain refuge at this altitude might well be significant, but not within this range. It is so close to the terminus of the Mont Blanc Tramway that it is equivalent to the majority of low level mountain hotels used by tourists which would themselves not be deemed notable (see here) There are two other significant alpine mountaineering huts well above this altitude en route to the ascent to Mont Blanc. The matter of deletion was raised recently within the WP:Alps Project here where my proposal rationale received some support. To prepare for its removal, reference to the refuge has also been made within the MB Tramway article referred to above. I trust I've put over the salient points - I have never proposed an AfD before which is related to a Project that I participate in, and do not do so lightly now. Parkywiki (talk) 01:08, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. — Nizolan  (talk) 05:12, 30 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. The nominator seems to have studied this out.  The article is merely one sentence and, glancing at its edit history, never had more.  Clicking to the French language Wikipedia version of the article, there is not much more. This website shows not much more.  I do wonder if it could be mentioned in some worldwide or regional List of mountain huts, in which case this separate article could be redirected to its place in the list. -- do  ncr  am  18:56, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * It's worth pointing out that this hut is currently included in lists of Mountain Huts in France which is a sub-category of Mountain Huts in the Alps. My proposal is that this building is not sufficient notable to merit a Wikipedia article, nor high enough within the mountains to be sensibly regarded as a mountain hut at all, as it is more like a hostel at the end of a tourist railway line. As such it wouldn't merit inclusion in any mountain hut list. I proposed this both from the logical arguments of Wikipedia, but also from personal experience of alpine mountaineering within this range, and would never consider it as a mountaineering refuge, despite its name. Should anyone be interested, they can see my arguments in defence of not deleting an article on a lower altitude mountain hut within a lesser mountain range here. Hope this all helps. Parkywiki (talk) 22:17, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 05:30, 9 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete: Nothing significant to be here Zedopuppy (talk) 21:56, 16 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.